Friday, January 29, 2010
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州政权易手后仍发款给前任议员
八打灵县属为加速批款加班28天
29-01-2010 14:41 SELCAT听证会! 雪州能力、公信力与透明度特别遴选委员会听证会上指出,前斯里肯邦安区州议员廖润强与巴亚加拉斯区州议员布斯罗将自己列为领款者,前者提出的150项中,145项共逾50万令吉的拨款全部发至自己名下;而后者的165项共50万4000令吉的拨款申请,则全数列入自己名下。八打灵县署更声称为了处理议员积压的申请,不惜连续28天加班,即便是周六日也照常开工!
听证会今日再度传召八打灵县长祖基菲阿末,要求对方解释县署属下的13个州选区在上届大选前拨款迅速拨光一事。即便雪州政权在大选后易手,但该县属依然批准前州议员的拨款申请,甚至从议会解散那天开始,连续28天加班,以处理这些积压的申请。
当时负责发展事务的八打灵副县长雅哈雅今日在供证时指称,县署是认为有需要加速处理州议员积压(BACKLOG)的拨款申请,于是要 官员加班处理这些申请,但该委员会主席邓章钦却反驳,除了是处理议员去年提出的拨款申请,否则才刚刚提出申请,岂能算是积压的申请。
不仅如此,听证会上也点出许多州选区不寻常的地方,包括在民联州务大臣与行政议员宣誓就职后,仍批准前州议员的拨款申请,允许州议员申请亲民活动拨款,但却是直接拨给国阵成员党,以及一次过申领全年的服务中心津贴等问题。
尽管八打灵县长祖基菲阿末指因当时未接获新指示,加上州政权首次易手自己一时难以适应,在没有意识要请示民联政府的情况下,延续一贯批款程序,批准所有前任州议员的申请。但委员会却不满八打灵县署在政权易手后,再未请示的情况下发出拨款,还将之视为正常程序。
县长也在会上建议州政府将年度拨款交由州议员自行处理,但邓章钦却反驳在县署监管下,拨款都已被迅速花光,若由州议员自行处理,届时,拨款便可能在3天内花光。
“虽然每名州议员50万令吉,以及大臣及州行政议员60万令吉的拨款,让人感觉数目不大,但一届下来雪州的州议员拨款,共高达1亿 4600万令吉,这笔数额足以完成许多事情。”
此外,听证会上也点出斯里肯邦安区被指在短短的9天内,便申请了56万3500令吉拨款,当中除了5项各1万令吉的款项是发给一私人 公司外,其他的拨款的领款者都是当时的州议员廖润强本身。
此外,巴亚加拉斯州选区则是在2个星期内,花光50万4000令吉拨款,所有的领款者都是州议员本身。
八打灵县属是在去年9月首次被听证会传召时,要求SELCAT给予更多时间准备资料,因此成为听证会最后一名被传召的县长。
听证会也针对前行政议员林传盛的武吉加星州选区在308大选后,仍向县署申请20项逾20万令吉的拨款,要求县长作出解释。
邓章钦指出,若以该州选区为例,平均每2至3天便举办一场活动的频密性,对其逻辑性提出质问,但县长却在问题上不断耍“官腔”,直指虽然自己无法出示相关文件证明,但他相信州议员提出的申请,是在大选前举办的活动。
同时,被邓章钦形容负责14个州选区如同“超人”的县长,虽认同拨款快速花光与大选将近有关,但他却不愿品论议员在两个月内花光拨款的逻辑性。
他说,县署是基于活动是在州议会解散前举办,所以才批准议员的拨款申请,但过后却无法应要求出示相关活动的证据,而惨遭委员会主席邓章钦谴责,并宣布休会10分钟,让县长准备所有的资料。
SELCAT是以雪州议长邓章钦为首,其他成员包括国际山庄区州议员阿兹敏阿里、淡江区州议员沙阿里、副议长哈尼查和武吉加星区州议员李宝霖,以及两名国阵议员,即柏马登区州议员苏莱曼和杜顺区州议员依斯迈沙尼。
吕慧萍 报道
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八打灵县属为加速批款加班28天
29-01-2010 14:41 SELCAT听证会! 雪州能力、公信力与透明度特别遴选委员会听证会上指出,前斯里肯邦安区州议员廖润强与巴亚加拉斯区州议员布斯罗将自己列为领款者,前者提出的150项中,145项共逾50万令吉的拨款全部发至自己名下;而后者的165项共50万4000令吉的拨款申请,则全数列入自己名下。八打灵县署更声称为了处理议员积压的申请,不惜连续28天加班,即便是周六日也照常开工!
听证会今日再度传召八打灵县长祖基菲阿末,要求对方解释县署属下的13个州选区在上届大选前拨款迅速拨光一事。即便雪州政权在大选后易手,但该县属依然批准前州议员的拨款申请,甚至从议会解散那天开始,连续28天加班,以处理这些积压的申请。
当时负责发展事务的八打灵副县长雅哈雅今日在供证时指称,县署是认为有需要加速处理州议员积压(BACKLOG)的拨款申请,于是要 官员加班处理这些申请,但该委员会主席邓章钦却反驳,除了是处理议员去年提出的拨款申请,否则才刚刚提出申请,岂能算是积压的申请。
不仅如此,听证会上也点出许多州选区不寻常的地方,包括在民联州务大臣与行政议员宣誓就职后,仍批准前州议员的拨款申请,允许州议员申请亲民活动拨款,但却是直接拨给国阵成员党,以及一次过申领全年的服务中心津贴等问题。
尽管八打灵县长祖基菲阿末指因当时未接获新指示,加上州政权首次易手自己一时难以适应,在没有意识要请示民联政府的情况下,延续一贯批款程序,批准所有前任州议员的申请。但委员会却不满八打灵县署在政权易手后,再未请示的情况下发出拨款,还将之视为正常程序。
县长也在会上建议州政府将年度拨款交由州议员自行处理,但邓章钦却反驳在县署监管下,拨款都已被迅速花光,若由州议员自行处理,届时,拨款便可能在3天内花光。
“虽然每名州议员50万令吉,以及大臣及州行政议员60万令吉的拨款,让人感觉数目不大,但一届下来雪州的州议员拨款,共高达1亿 4600万令吉,这笔数额足以完成许多事情。”
此外,听证会上也点出斯里肯邦安区被指在短短的9天内,便申请了56万3500令吉拨款,当中除了5项各1万令吉的款项是发给一私人 公司外,其他的拨款的领款者都是当时的州议员廖润强本身。
此外,巴亚加拉斯州选区则是在2个星期内,花光50万4000令吉拨款,所有的领款者都是州议员本身。
八打灵县属是在去年9月首次被听证会传召时,要求SELCAT给予更多时间准备资料,因此成为听证会最后一名被传召的县长。
听证会也针对前行政议员林传盛的武吉加星州选区在308大选后,仍向县署申请20项逾20万令吉的拨款,要求县长作出解释。
邓章钦指出,若以该州选区为例,平均每2至3天便举办一场活动的频密性,对其逻辑性提出质问,但县长却在问题上不断耍“官腔”,直指虽然自己无法出示相关文件证明,但他相信州议员提出的申请,是在大选前举办的活动。
同时,被邓章钦形容负责14个州选区如同“超人”的县长,虽认同拨款快速花光与大选将近有关,但他却不愿品论议员在两个月内花光拨款的逻辑性。
他说,县署是基于活动是在州议会解散前举办,所以才批准议员的拨款申请,但过后却无法应要求出示相关活动的证据,而惨遭委员会主席邓章钦谴责,并宣布休会10分钟,让县长准备所有的资料。
SELCAT是以雪州议长邓章钦为首,其他成员包括国际山庄区州议员阿兹敏阿里、淡江区州议员沙阿里、副议长哈尼查和武吉加星区州议员李宝霖,以及两名国阵议员,即柏马登区州议员苏莱曼和杜顺区州议员依斯迈沙尼。
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Thursday, January 28, 2010
扣留期间死亡人数

谈“警察扣留期间死亡事件”(上)
作者/杨培根 Oct 25, 2009 02:19:30 pm
编按:2009年10月25日(星期日)柔佛州人民之友工委会纪念成立八周年(2001-2009),举办讲座会,邀请资深律师杨培根主讲“警察扣留期间死亡事件”,这是杨培根的讲稿,分(上)、(下)刊出。
《禁止酷刑和其他残忍和不人道待遇公约》任择书
2002年12月18日,联合国通过《禁止酷刑和其他残忍和不人道待遇公约》任择书(Optional Protocol to the UN Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel and Unusual Treatment,简称《禁止酷刑公约》)。
“任择书”是联合国的特殊机制,其主要目的是规定:签署择书的国家,必须允许国际的和本国的人权专家们检查国内的扣留犯的扣留条件,以及他们所遭受的待遇。人权专家们还可向相关国家建议,改善扣留者的待遇,以符合《禁止酷刑公约》及人道主义。
表决任择书——马来西亚弃权
2002年,“《禁止酷刑公约》任择书”在联合国付诸表决时,结果情形如下:127个国家表示支持,42个国家表示弃权,四个国家表示反对。
马来西亚竟然是42个弃权国家之一,不投票支持任择书。我国不投票“背书”“任择书”,意味着我国不欢迎联合国和我国人权专家到我国来,检验扣留所(或扣留营)内扣留者的扣留条件,以及扣留者是否遭受到恶劣的待遇。
马来西亚弃权不投票,类似“此地无银三百两”的作法,不得不让人作出一个结论,那就是,我国不准备根据《禁止酷刑公约》的准则来维护我国人民的基本人权。
亚洲人权委员会:我国人权差劲
针对我国所持的立场,亚洲人权委员会指出,那是不会令人感到意外的。他们举出的理由是:长期以来,马来西亚警察在逮捕嫌犯或对证人进行盘问等调查工作时,经常对他们施以一般国家所不能容忍的暴力行为。亚洲人权委员会是经过仔细调查后,才对我国作出不利的评价。(见亚洲人权委员会近年来对马来西亚所做的人权报告)
“亚洲人权委员会”也指出了下列几点:
一、《联邦宪法》虽保障聘请辩护律师权利,但警方却自认为有权拒绝律师会见嫌犯,因为我国《宪法》没写明会见律师的时间。亚洲人权委员会认为,警方这项绝对权力是不合理的。
二、许多嫌犯家境贫困,又没受过多少教育,又无法“拉关系”和警方搞好关系,以避免不受折磨。
三、我国警方人员举止粗暴、贪污、使用暴力、采用高压手段的事件,时有所闻。警方人员权力似为超然于法律,不根据法律行事;有时只靠“怀疑”就“先拘捕,后调查”,正常的程序应该是“先调查,才拘捕”。
四、以警察扣留期间死亡案件来说,警方经常提出的理由是:嫌犯死于“自杀”、“心脏病忽发”、“胃溃疡”或“自然死亡”等。
五、当局提控违纪的警方人员时,所提出的控状总是“避重就轻”。有时,当局只提控低级警方人员,不提控高级警官。亚洲人权委员会举出了一个例子:轰动一时的“李月良死亡案件”。在此案中,死因调查庭确认:有11名警官,包括高级警长涉及此案。但是,结果只有两名低级警方人员被提控。
上述这段文字,引述自亚洲人权委员会最近发表的一份关于马来西亚人权报告书。
我国扣留所死亡人数没准确数据
我国监狱和扣留所死亡人数究竟有多少,似乎无法找到准确答案。官方数据和民间数据相差其远。下面举出一些例子:
(1)2009年7月23日,马来西亚人民之声发表了最新的《2008年人权报告》,显示的数据如下:2003年至2007年(四年内)的全国死亡人数为1535人,2008年(一年内)监牢死亡人数为255人,警察扣留所死亡人数为13人。
(2)2009年3月间,民主行动党国会议员刘镇东在国会向内政部长所获取的答案是:1999年至2009年(10年)监狱、改造所、非法劳工扣留所死亡人数为2571人,医院就医期间死亡人数(总死亡人数的98.7%)为2536人,送医院途中死亡人数为22人,监牢内死亡人数为13人。
人民之声最新的《2008年人权报告》
马来西亚人民之声每年都发表一份关于我国公民与政治权利的《人权报告》。根据马来西亚人民之声最新的一份《2008年人权报告》,在2008年,内政部长发表了警察扣留期间,嫌犯或犯人死亡的统计数据。(上面已谈过)
据内政部长还透露,2000年至2006年期间,共有108人于警察扣留期间死亡。在2000年至2007年间,柔佛州新邦令金扣留中心有95人死亡。
警方践踏人权由来已久
早在13年前(1996年),非政府组织发表了我国第一份《人权报告》,就提到了我国警察扣留期间屡屡发生扣留者离奇死亡的事件。(这是继1994年《马来西亚人权宪章》出台后,所发表的报告)
1991年7月18日,国会透露的官方数据如下:1980年至1990年(10年内)扣留者死亡人数为151名。
从上述官方和民间数据看来,不容易看出我国警察扣留期间(in police custody)死亡人数,以及扣留所死亡(deaths in lockups)人数。
较突出的警察扣留所死亡案件
政府没透露详情,如:扣留者死因以及过后所采取的措施。显然,政府并没有很好的监管警察在扣留期间导致扣留者的死亡事件。
早在1995年至1997年间,大众媒体就曾报道过警察扣留期间的死亡事件。下面是几宗较为突出的案件,从这些案件可以看出警方滥权的程度:
(一)1995年李国良(Lee Quat Leong)案
一名42岁的技工,因涉嫌参与打抢银行而被逮捕。但是,他于1995年5月12日在警方扣留期间被打死。验尸庭经过调查发现有11名警官涉及此案,其中有四名高级警官得负刑事责任。1995年12月14日《远东经济评论》报道说,验尸结果发现死者身上有45处外伤,七支肋骨折断。可是,11名警官中只有两名警察被提控,坐监18个月而已。
(二)2002 年拉古巴迪案
2002年7月,一伙年轻人踫上一辆在执行巡逻任务的警车。警官怀疑他们和一起罪案有关,一伙人都被逮捕,其中一人拉古巴迪曾进行过心脏手术。他在扣留所时胸部感到疼痛,三天不能进食,还呕吐,警方却不理。隔了几天,警方才带他到政府诊疗所,但没有医生,只有一名男护士给他一些气喘的药物,病情是警员告诉他的。
隔天病情恶化,警员送他到布城医院。第二天,医院证实他已死亡。过了两个月,副内政部长在国会中说,警方不必负起任何刑事责任。
(三)威华山努案
另一死者威华山努(Vivasanu Pillay)死亡情况更加离奇。本来死者被警察扣留,可是隔不了多久,有人在一条河里发现他腐化的尸体。警方说,他是逃离吉隆坡金马区(Dang Wangi)警署后失足溺毙于河中。不过死者家属指出,在警方扣留期间他就已离奇死亡,接着尸体被丟入河中。副内政部长在国会宣布,他的死亡和警方人员无关。
(四)1995年原住民苏旦(Sudan a/l Lolam)案
1996年3月4日,西马原住民协会(非政府组织)向彭亨州警察总监投诉,有一名原住民九个月前在警方扣留期间死亡。警方却说,他在扣留所自己用背心上吊自杀。
(五)1995年扣留中心45名外劳死亡
1995年中,经过非政府组织Tenaganita调查发表报告,副内政部长默卡朱尼也在国会证实:共有46名外劳在几个外劳扣留中心死亡,其中士毛月扣留中心就有42 名外劳死亡。据说,他们是死于一般疾病,如:脚气病、胃病等。政府没发表任何验尸报告。马来西亚医药协会指出,其实这些疾病都是能及时治好的。至今,没有人被控以刑事疏忽罪行。
(六)2009年苦根(Kugan)案
2009年1月15日,22岁的印籍青年苦根被逮捕后扣留在梳邦TAIPAN警察局,在警方扣留五天期间突然死亡。他被指偷车,在受警方盘问期间失去知觉,过后送往沙登(serdang)医院,宣布死亡。
苦根家属发觉他身上有严重伤痕,他们把两名印籍副部长召到验尸房,但警方却怪两名副部长干预警方调查工作。
医生起初断定苦根死于“肺积水”,他家属不满,召来马大医院做第二次验尸。检验结果证明除了“肺积水”,他还被粗大物件致伤,卫生部设立的“十人调查委员会”则证明,死者身上的伤痕是用粗大物件,如橡胶水喉管类重复殴打所致,最后导致他死亡。
起初,警方矢口否认苦根的死亡与警方暴行有关,公众與论哗然,总检察长不得不指令警方调查此案,有11名警方人员因而被调职。但是,根据网络媒体《当今大马》10月1日报道,只有一名警察被提控,控状是:他逼供致伤死者,可能面对最高刑罚坐牢七年和罚款,也可能被提控严重致伤死者,刑罚十年监禁。这显然是当局在社会與论压力下所作出的決定。
不过,死者家属的代表律师哥宾星则责问,为什么不控告他谋杀罪,然后由法官酙情减低控状?他也责问,为什么不提控其他参与并涉及的警官?
据报道,死者是被嫌犯用橡胶水喉管毒打致伤,四天后就死亡。但是总检察长解释说,嫌犯并没即刻置死者于死地,是过了四天后他才死亡,所以不能提控他谋杀罪。
(七)2009年赵明福死亡案件
在野党民主行动党的一名政治助理离奇死亡,他原本只是被反贪污委员会(MACC,以前叫反贪污局,ACA)传召为证人,到反贪委会办公室问话,协助调查关于区区马币两千元的所谓贪污案。但是,隔天他尸体橫陈在隔邻的另一建筑物的屋顶上,他是在反贪委会扣留期间死亡的。
这宗离奇死亡案件受到全马人民的关注,政府不得不特別处理。起初,反贪委会成员提出各种各样的解释但漏洞百出。最后,在社会與论压力下,首相不得不宣布成立皇家调查委员会。但是,不是为了调查死因,而是为了调查反贪委会是否有根据合法程序进行调查工作。另由验尸庭调查死因,这是叠床架屋的作法。
后来为了平息公愤,首相特地到死者家庭告诉死者家属,有必要的话将会由皇家调查委员会调查死因。
谈“警察扣留期间死亡事件”(下)
作者/杨培根 Oct 27, 2009 11:10:18 am
政府调查手法异乎寻常
政府处理此案手法异于寻常,由皇家调查委员会调查反贪委会是否采用合法的调查程序,另由死因调查庭调查死因,那是本末倒置的作法。调查死因的重要工作本应由皇家委员会来进行,为什么交由一个刚从法科毕业不久的低级司法官员(推事)来处理而不交由德高望重、学有所成的调委会成员(包括法律界人士和医学专才)去处理呢?
前部长再益:内阁企图“掩盖事实”
前首相署部长再益依布拉欣抨击政府内阁这个决定,认为那纯粹是一种企图“掩盖事实的伎俩”。他说:“我们的国家病了,人民将不会从政府口中获得真相”。(见《独立新闻在线》2009年7月24日的报道)
时评家金格:凭空捏造死因
《当今大马》也刊登了社会评论员金格(Kim Quek)的文章。金格认为,首相纳吉最后答应设立皇家委员会是为了平息公愤。但是令人失望的是,这近乎是一种玩弄民众的伎俩,因为调委会不调查死因而只调查反贪委会盘问程序是否合法。
金格形容调委会的设立好像学校调查某个学生被鞭打致死事件,校方设立听证会只是调查校方纪律程序问题是否有差错,而不是调查这名学生如何死亡、为何会死亡。
2009年10月22日各报报道:80%他杀,20%自杀
10月21日,雪州政府聘请来自泰国的国际闻名法医庞缇(Porntip)在验尸庭供证。她在研究了验尸报告、X光照和多张照片后,达致结论:赵明福的死因其中80%为被人杀害,只有20%可能是自杀。她发觉死者头骨破裂,肛门受伤因物件插入所致,臀部右下方遭木棍打伤,颈伤有勒痕,这些伤处都并非坠楼所致。
有人建议:警察传召时,应采取步骤保护自己
这就导致有人最近在《激流月刊》(Aliran)写文章提醒大家,万一被警方或反贪污局传召应采取步骤保护自己(见近期Aliran,George Aeria的文章)。他认为,当被传召时,为了保护自己,最好能做到下列几点:
(一)哪一间警署?
• 如果警方把你当作嫌犯或传召你当证人时,必须弄清楚你得到哪一个警署去做供。如果是要你做证人,你可选择对你本身适合的时间和地点为警方做口供。例如:你可要求在某一天几点钟在你的律师楼和警方见面和做口供。
(二)律师或朋友陪同
• 传召后,即刻到另一间警署去报案。別只身前往,应有朋友,最好是律师陪同。
(三)身心都健康
• 到了这间警署报案时,说:
• 目前,你没有任何问题(指社会、个人、商业上或财务上的问题)。因此,你完全没有意思在警署自杀。
• 你的身体健康,没有什么病痛,也没有能导致你猝然死亡的伤痛。
• 你身上没有伤痕,也没有浮肿的迹象。换句话说,你的身体健康得很。
• 突然死亡?万一我在警方扣留所突然死亡,这就意味着我已被杀害。
• 决定六点离开,扣留时间一超过下午六点,你决定离开警署。如果到时还没离开,那就意味着,我已被迫留在警署,警方还在逼供。
(四)报案纸副本交律师朋友
• 报案后,应把一份报案纸副本交给你的律师朋友,自己保留一份,存在口袋里。
(五)应各自离开
• 你和朋友或律师离开报案的警署时,应“分道扬镳”,各自离开。
(六)过后才到警署接受“问话”
(七)报案纸交查案警官
• 见了“问话”官员,即刻就把你口袋里的报案纸交给他,同时告诉他,副本在你律师手中。(必须确保这个时候你的律师朋友已不在场。不然,他可能也被“问话”,报案纸可能被没收。)
这一切都是为了保障你的人身安全,警官才不至于对你作出不法行为,你也不至于变成一个大袋装着的尸体,或者得用担架抬到医院的紧急室里。
什么是皇家调查委员会?
皇家调查委员会,有人译作“皇家委员会”(Royal Commission of Inquiry,RCI)。由国家元首委任的独立调查机构,其成员由德高望重的社会人士所组成。他们的职责就是调查国家发生的严重问题,它是英国议会民主制度的产物。
从1830年起,皇家委员会开始流行。其成员包括不同经历的人,广泛收集证据和意见。到了1948年,英国已建立了一百多个皇家委员会,如:司法改革委员会、宗教改革委员会、济贫法委员会等。委员会的报告作为蓝皮书出版,委员会报告旨在提高效率、确定程序以及改良行政方法等。(见《牛津法律大辞典》)
可是,这些委员会有很多缺点,如:消耗大量时间和钱财,又不一定能达到预期的效果,反倒成了政府的工具,利用来缓和民众对一些丑闻的愤怒情绪。
沈观仰:皇家委员会起制约均衡作用
时评家沈观仰认为,皇家委员会在民主社会里能起着制约均衡的作用,长期好好利用能推进民主制度的发展。皇家委员会一旦成立,政府不能阻止它操作,必须让它运作到结束为止。因此,政府都不大愿意设立皇家委员会。赵明福的真正死因可能不会真相大白,但是,囯阵可能在下届大选付出昂贵的代价。(见《当今大马》2009年7月25日报道,沈观仰的《形同跛脚鸭的皇家委员会》)
什么是验尸庭?
所谓验尸庭,其实并不是真正检验尸体的法庭,它是普通的推事庭(Magistrate’s Court)。推事是低级法官,他得查出死者死因。我国大众媒体都称呼这类推事庭为“验尸庭”(编按:coroner’s court,本刊译作“死因调查庭”)。
有人建议采用“死因调查庭”,以反映这类法庭的真正职责。在香港,这类法庭则称为“死因裁判庭”。调查的目的,不是为了查出谁是罪犯,而是为了查出死因。它完全得依赖副检察司(DPP)的帮助,才能进行调查死因,而副检察司只能依赖警方所提供的证据传召证人出庭作证,推事只能考虑警方所提呈的供词或证据。
其他国家(如:英国或澳洲)想当验尸庭主,必须由至少要有五年执业经验的律师或医生来担任。
人权律师西华:验尸庭缺点多多
办刑事案富有经验的人权律师兼国会议员西华拉沙(Sivarasa)曾在一篇文告中指出,在“司法与法律部门”管辖下,推事作为低级司法官员,经常从司法部与主控官部门之间互相调动,存在偏袒或“官官相护”的现象。
更糟的是,副检察司还是推事的上司!上司在推事庭前办案,推事能秉公处理案件吗?这几年来,不少调查工作常受阻挠,因为推事、副检察司和警方不太愿意认真合作。结果,没有一个警官被查出有犯罪行为。
大部分死亡案件都定为“自然死亡”或“猝然死亡”或“死因不明”。早期也发生过,调查的结论是:“死者被不明人士所杀”。为什么会得出这类结论呢?那全是因为推事调查死因范围只局限在警方所提供的证据,他不能自行传召他需要的证人。
调查完毕,推事把调查结果和证据呈交检察司,嫌犯是否会被提控全由总检察长决定,推事无权过问。英国则不同,他们有另外特设的死因调查庭,而不是由推事担任这份调查死因的工作。
皇家委员会和验尸庭有什么不同?
皇家委员会和验尸庭两者之间有什么不同?皇家委员会的权力比验尸庭大得多。首先,调查庭有权传召任何人当证人出庭供证,验尸庭则没有这样的权力。
推事只能根据警方所提供的呈堂证据裁定死因,他只能裁定死者自杀、他杀、被不知名人士所杀害、死因不明或未能查明死因,故裁决“死因未详”等。
另外一点,皇家委员会的成员是由法律界和医学界等学有所长的专才来胜任,显得较为中立。
我国历年来共设立九个皇家调查委员会
根据人权律师西华的调查,自建国以来我国共设立了九个皇家调查委员会。其中较为人们所关注的有下列四宗:
(一)烟花厂爆炸案(Sungai Buloh)
这惨案发生在20至30年前,被人称为“明亮的烟花棒惨案”(Bright Sparklers Disaster)。事因在雪兰莪双溪毛糯(Sungai Buloh)的地方,有一间存在已久的“明亮的烟花棒”制造烟花的工厂。有一天,工厂不知何故突然爆炸,导致六人死亡,多名员工受伤,引起全国关注。为了平息众怒,政府随即成立了皇家委员会,调查工厂发生爆炸事件的原因。
过了好多年,都不见调查报告书出炉。后来有传言指,这个烟花厂是属于巫统某个重要部长的。不过,公司是注册在他亲戚名份下。工厂生产烟花已整整十年了,但是这工厂并没有合法的执照!可是,它却一直都在生产烟花。在众人的印象中,政府似乎没有公开发表过什么调查报告书,整个案件似乎也就这么不了了之。
(二)监督警察滥权委员会(IPCMC)
2004年尾,鉴于我国警察滥权现象丛生,时任首相阿都拉成立了皇家委员会,调查公众人士对警察部队不满的情况并寻求对策。2005年5月16日,前最高法院院长再丁为首的皇家调查委员会花了不少心血发表一本厚达433页的皇家委员会报告书,提出125项建议,似乎准备大事改革马来西亚警察部队。前首相甚至订下了成立“监督警察滥权委员会”(Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission,IPCMC)的日期。
但是一直都没有成立监督警察滥权委员会,政府后来却采用“偷龙转凤”的手法,把另一类毫无实质效果的委员会——特別投诉委员会(Special Complaints Commission,SCC),塞进国会以取代监督警察滥权委员会。据报载,这个月(2009年10月)特別投诉委员会法案将交由国会辩论通过。
其实,特別投诉委员会并不是我们所期待的监督警察滥权委员会。它被人形容为一个邮箱,最终警察滥权事件还是由反贪委会处理,非政府组织等众人都反对。《当今大马》最近报道,前警察总长哈聂夫也要政府确保特別投诉委员会必须含有监督警察滥权委员会的主要內容(核心的组成部分)(见2009年10月7日的youtube)。到目前为止,政府并没有意愿成立监督警察滥权委员会。
(三)重新举行地方议会选举
1965年前,我国原本有地方议会选举。但是,1964年发生了印尼对抗马来西亚的事件,政府以这事件做为理由或借口,取消了在1965年和1966年的全国地方议会选举。
四年后(1968年),政府成立了以阿迪那哈本律师或上议员为首的皇家委员会,调查是否应恢复地方议会选举。经过详细调查,他建议:全国应恢复地方议会选举。可是,过了三年政府仍然没有动静。1971年,这份报告书转由首相署的一个小小行政单位研究。结果,这个行政单位竟拟就另一份报告书,推翻了皇家委员会恢复地方议会选举的建议。从此,我国就不再有民选地方议会,地方议员全由执政党委任。到了今天,我们的地方议员都是官委的,不是民选的。实质上,民主制度在倒退,地方议会应由人民选出,而不应由执政党委任。官委地方议员不可能一心一意为人民服务,只能听命于执政党,为执政党服务。
其实,1964年“印尼对抗”和1969年“513事件”只是当权者用来废除民选地方议会的借口。真正的原因是,当时有个强大的社会主义阵线(社阵),具有优良的群众根基。当时越来越多的地方议会、市议会都在社阵执政和掌控下,这对当时的联盟政府非常不利。为了巩固政权,当权者不愿意恢复地方议会选举。
(四)林甘司法丑闻(Lingam Tape)
林甘律师公然介入委任法官事件。政府成立皇家调查委员会针对林甘司法丑闻一案出版了一份很厚的报告书,列出犯罪证据,显示林甘律师和多名法官、政治人物、商业大亨互相勾结的事实。可是,后来却不见总检察署采取任何行动。前首相署部长再益最近提起林甘司法丑闻一事指出,政府处理这问题的手法,暴露了总检察署不敢进一步跟进林甘案件。
皇家委员会调查结果显示,我国司法制度出现了不可思议且极不健康的怪现象。但是,没有任何人因此而被提控。不过,这个司法丑闻影响了去年308大选成绩;许多选民转投在野党,使国阵受到很大的挫折。
2009年10月22日《新海峡时报》头条新闻报道,首相回答林冠英国会询问时说,反贪污局报告没有证据证明委任法官有滥权之处,反贪委会決定不再继续调查。早些时候,皇家委员会直指六人应被调查。
我国为什么频频发生扣留期间死亡事件?
我国频频发生扣留所死亡事件,主要原因是:我国人民起码的基本人权不受尊重。警方并不重视宝贵的生命,只一味进行严格的问话和盘问,只求达到目的,不择手段。
就如杜乾焕博士最近所说的,当权者对“良好施政”并没多大兴趣,因此对监管警察滥权的行为提不起劲。皇家调查委员会所建议的监督警察滥权委员会(IPCMC)至今仍束之高阁,为了掩人耳目、蒙混过关,政府将在国会通过《特殊投诉委员会》(SCC)以取代监督警察滥权委员会(IPCMC)。
结语:警察应是人民公仆
我国是奉行民主的国家,但是,我国警察作为公务员就是人民的公仆,应保护人民在宪法下所享有的基本人权。对待人民,举止应温文尔雅,而不应采取粗暴的态度。人民才是老板,警察是公务员也就是人民公仆。所以,警察应抱着为民服务的态度,这才能体现我国是一个民主社会。
可是,在我国情形并不是这样。警察部队和反贪委会官员在对待证人和嫌犯采取粗暴态度,不像是人民公仆,更像是人民的主人。这就导致在警方扣留期间,扣留者离奇死亡事件层出不穷。
最典型的例子就是赵明福离奇死亡案件,没有人愿意对此案负起责任。人人都在推搪责任,提出完全不成理由的理由。他们这么做,其实是在侮辱我国人民的智慧。
警察沦为镇压异议分子的工具
上面已说过,警察部队是用纳税人的钱建立起来的,应是一支为人民服务的队伍。他们应该为人民服务的公仆,维持社会治安,保卫国家和人民的财产。
但是,看来当权者对良好施政没多大兴趣,只是在想方设法夺取民联的州政权,好继续维持其统治以及维护统治集团及其朋党的利益。他们无心把警察部队训练成为一支为人民服务的队伍,反把警察部队当作镇压在野党和异议分子的工具。
为维护政权 当权者动用国家机器
最近发生的赵明福离奇死亡事件,更进一步说明了当权者为了保住其政权不惜动用另一副国家机器——反贪委会,打击雪州民联政府,希望把民联雪州政府搞跨。
试想,反贪委会要调查的只是区区所谓马币两千元的贪污舞弊案,竟使到在野党干部赵明福莫名其妙地死去。反观巫统州务大臣基尔花了不明不白的马币2400万元建起了“宫殿”(被人称为“基宫”),不见警方和反贪委会向人民交代他们如何进行认真的调查。
这些事件说明,为了夺取和维持政权,当权者可以动用任何可使用的国家机器来对付异己分子,甚至把他们置于死地。难怪有人认为,“国家”主要是一个维持政权的暴力机器,而警察、军队等只是这副机器的一部分。只要统治集团认为政权已受到威胁,他们就会动用这副机器来镇压和排除异己。对他们来说,政权高于一切,只要能维持政权,他们就能为所欲为,继续搞其金钱政治、朋党主义、裙带风主义以及贪污舞弊行为,但却又能消遙法外。
我国人民的基本人权和民主权利必须得到尊重。目前,对良好施政无多大兴趣的当权者是不会认真尊重人民的基本人权的。只有靠众人的力量去争取,要分清敌友,设法建立起一个比较能照顾人民利益的政权。只有这样,我国人民的基本人权和民主权利才能得到保障。(完)
(2009年8月29日完稿)
附录:
扣留期间死亡人数的其他数据
(1)《当今大马》于2005年2月27日的报道透露了下列数据:1990年至2004年9月(14年内)监牢犯人死亡人数为1583人(注:全国有28所监牢),警察扣留期间死亡人数为150人。
(2)政府在国会发表的官方数据《马新社》于2008年7月8日的新闻报道显示:2003年至2007年(四年内)扣留期间死亡人数为1535人,警察扣留所死亡人数为85人。
(3)《当今大马》于2007年4月23日的报道,前首相阿都拉透露:2000年至2006年(六年内)警察扣留期间死亡人数为85人。
(4)警务改革皇家委员会的报告指出:2000年至2004年9月扣留期间死亡人数为80人,2009年间警局扣留所死亡人数为5人。
警员包围村庄闯宗教课捉50人--must read news from internet, not from newspaper

警员包围村庄闯宗教课捉人
废内安法联盟坚称50人被捕
作者/本刊曾薛霏 Jan 28, 2010 01:04:47 pm
【本刊曾薛霏撰述】废除内安法令联盟(Gerakan Mansuhkan ISA)今天揭露,内政部在上周四出动荷枪实弹的警员,包围吉隆坡鹅唛的一个村庄,硬闯一个住家展开秘密逮捕行动。他们坚称,内政部在这起行动中逮捕了50人,惟大部分人在次日凌晨获释,目前尚有12人被扣留。
他们指出,这群扣留者是在2003年来便抵马的大学生,并非如内政部长希山慕丁所言,警方仅逮捕十人,而他们是在入境后不久遭到逮捕。
废除内安法令联盟今天在隆雪华堂召开记者会,揭示他们收集到的资讯。该联盟主席赛依布拉欣(Syed Ibrahim Syed Noh,左图)指出,在1月21日晚上9时30分,正当约50人在鹅唛双溪金晶(Sungai Cincin)一间住家上宗教课时,约十名身穿警察外套的便衣人员强行以武器闯入室内,逮捕了他们。
到了次日凌晨三时,大部分人获释,相信目前尚有12人还在扣留中。该联盟只掌握到其中九人的身份。他们分别是:
一、阿查哈里(Azzahari Murad,马来西亚人)
二、艾曼(Aiman Al Dakkak,叙利亚人)
三、莫哈末赫兹法(Mohamed Hozifa,叙利亚人,学生)
四、库迪巴(Kutiba Al-Issa,叙利亚人,学生)
五、卡立沙林(Khalid Salem,叶门人,学生)
六、陆曼阿都沙兰(Luqman Abdul Salam,尼日利亚人,学生)
七、哈山巴鲁迪(Hassan Barudi,叙利亚人)
八、胡桑卡立(Husam Khalid,约旦人)
九、阿都阿尔希博拉约各巫曼(Abdul Alhi Bolajoko Uthman,尼日利亚人)
这群学生大部分是国际回教大学的学生,年龄介于20岁至40岁。他们之中很多是在2003年开始,便出席这堂非正式的宗教课。
目前内政部长希山慕丁只承认政府援引《内安法令》扣留十人,其中九人是外国人,一人是马来西亚人,他们都与国际恐怖组织网络有联系,无论如何,他以维护调查人员的安全为由,拒绝透露更多详情。【点击:担心情报危及调查人员
希山拒揭逮捕恐嫌内情】
除了这12名扣留者之外,出席记者会的扣留者家属赫曼阿都阿林(Homan Abdul Alim Altarsha,左图)也透露,据他所知在1月17日,一名沙地阿拉伯学生阿都拉(Abdullah)在前往廉价航空机场欲乘搭飞机返回阿布扎比(Abu Dhabi)之前,也遭警方逮捕,而沙地阿拉伯政府也证实了这项逮捕。
此外,另一名尼日利亚籍学生依布拉欣(Ibrahim)也在大约三天前遭到逮捕,他不排除他们也是遭警方援引《内安法令》逮捕。
警员没出示逮捕令和证件
当晚遭警方逮捕的其中一名学生莫哈末尤努斯(Mohd Yunos Zainal Abidin)透露,警方闯入室内时,指称“这是一起内政部的行动”(ini operasi Kementerian Dalam Negeri)便开始捉人,并把他们拷上手铐,用三辆警车和一辆罗里将他们逮返吉隆坡警察训练中心(Pulapor)。
他声称,在罗里上看出去,可见几乎整个村落都被警方包围了。
这群警员并没有出示逮捕令和证件,同时并没有说明他们是以什么理由展开逮捕行动。
莫哈末尤努斯表示,在吉隆坡警察训练中心,他们先是以国籍区分,其中有八人是马来西亚人,一名美国人,其他人的国际分别有叙利亚、约旦、尼日利亚等。
警方也特别询问,他们之中有没有人来自巴基斯坦、阿富汗和俄罗斯。然后,警方逐一盘问他们。
根据他的计算,当时遭到警方逮捕的人大约有50人,不过,他无法给予确切的数字。
问题围绕在授课老师身上
莫哈末尤努斯透露,这堂宗教课是研究回教经典的每周课程,由艾曼(Aiman Al Dakka)老师授课。艾曼是在2003年便抵达马来西亚,目前在马来西亚理科大学修读博士班,他持有双硕士,之前在马来西亚回教大学修读硕士班,专研回教学。
莫哈末尤努斯(左图)透露,警方频频询问他们,艾曼是否曾透露任何计划,他大多在课堂上说些什么灯。但是莫哈末尤努斯告诉警方,“根本没有什么计划”。
同时,他也坚称,艾曼一直都在课堂上宣称其反恐怖行动和反所谓圣战的立场。艾曼也不断告诉学生要服从政府。
艾曼的亲人赫曼阿都阿林也表示,艾曼在2003年便在国际回教大学修读硕士班,他一直就在课余时间教授宗教课,但是都没有面对任何问题。
赫曼阿都阿林表示,艾曼一直在宣导正确的回教观念给学生,同时也宣导以恐怖袭击方式的圣战是违反回教的看法。
他对马来西亚政府逮捕艾曼的做法感到极为失望。他一脸哀伤地说:“他的妻子、三个女儿和一个儿子,目前还在双溪金晶的住家中,没有人照顾他们。”
而且,艾曼在遭到警方逮捕之前,曾在道瓦佳医院(Tawakal)医院接受心脏病治疗返家。赫曼阿都阿林极为担心艾曼如今的健康状况。
莫哈末尤努斯说,在获释前,警察拍下了他们的照片,也取了他们十指的指纹。
其中一名目前仍遭扣留的宗教师阿查哈里(Azzahari Murad)为他们主持了一次祈祷仪式,他趁机询问阿查哈里的状况,阿查哈里透露,警方告知他们遭逮捕的理由是:涉及国际恐怖组织活动。
他说:“自从我们获释后,就再也没有听到他们的消息了。我承认国家安全十分重要,但是我们想知道政府究竟以什么理由逮捕艾曼,他们有什么证据?到今天我一直在问这个问题。”
警方未必透露以何法案调查
莫哈末尤努斯在受询时表示,在盘问过程中,警方也未提及是否援引《1960年内安法令》调查或扣留他们。
不过,废除内安法令联盟成员之一的人权律师阿米尔韩沙(Amer Hamzah Arshad,左图)表示,警方未必会说明是以《内安法令》扣留他们,虽然根据一般程序警方必须告知逮捕的理由。
他说,按一般刑事案程序,警方只可扣留一个嫌犯长达24小时而已,若要延长扣留则必须向法庭申请延长扣留,但是自上周四迄今,都未掌握到警方延长扣留的消息,因此,唯一的解释唯有《内安法令》,因为该法令的第73条文允许警方扣留遭逮捕者长达60天。
他也会设法向警方要求赶快让遭扣留者会见律师以获得法律援助。
阿米尔也表达了自己的隐忧,在扣留期间最容易发生扣留者遭虐待的情况。因此,扣留者必须尽速得到法律援助。由于缺乏资讯,律师也不知道内政部是否已在《内安法令》第8条文下,签下扣留令直接将他们送往扣留营。
与尼日利亚炸弹案有关?
赛依布拉欣指出,内政部展开的逮捕行动是为了回应国际社会指马来西亚有恐怖袭击威胁的说法,特别是跟美国两周前向沙巴发出的恐袭旅游警告有关。
美国驻马大使馆在1月15日发出旅游警告(travel advisory),指称有犯罪或恐怖袭击组织,计划袭击目前逗留在沙巴州的外籍人士。【点击:美国发旅游警告 沙巴或有恐袭案】
记者询问这些遭扣留者是否与一名尝试在圣诞节前夕引爆美国航机的尼日利亚学生有关,赛依布拉欣表示,不知道有无关联,但是他不排除在扣留期间,警方可能设法动用武力使这些学生屈打成招的情况。
他表示,政府应该出示证据证明他们确实有涉及,并重申警方不应援引《内安法令》未经审讯扣留。
昨天内政部长希山慕丁(Hishamuddin Hussein)否认政府逮捕50人,并指警方是与国际反恐机构合作下,才逮捕并扣留这十个在国际要犯名单上的人士。
根据《新海峡时报》今天的报道,昨天希山在记者会上指出,这十名扣留者属于的宗教组织,与日前在美国企图引爆缝在内裤内侧的爆炸物,以炸毁美国253航机的尼日利亚学生法鲁克(Farouk Abdulmutallab)属同一组织。
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
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2010之日月潭
在車上用了一個簡單的餐盒,車子開向了下一個目標日月潭,還未到日月潭就先到埔里酒廠稍做休息後再出發~
我們兩對酒類的產品都沒什麼興趣,但也像徵性的買了兩條紹興紅麴香腸,滿足了一下口腹之慾,因為車上的餐盒食在沒什麼好吃的~
這裡的酒廠在一次的大火之後重建,現在已經變成了一個重要的觀光的景點了~
日月潭終於到了~看見了寬闊的日月潭不禁興奮了起來,好久不見了,哇!真的變了好多,在車上就不停的一直拍照,希望記下經過921之後越變越美的她~車子沿著潭邊的公路,慢慢開進港口~
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行程裡包括了塔遊艇遊湖,上一次來是湖裡游,感受了水流的溫度、潮水動感浮力,和同伴彼此照應著,悠游於湖水中~
而這次是湖上遊是很不一樣的感覺呢~在船上船長還為我們簡單的介紹了日月潭的許多傳說~我想大家都聽很多了不再說明,我比較在意的還是記下這湖面的風景,於是跑到了船的舺板的前面想看清楚這裡美麗的景色~
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這是今年最夯的覽車,覽車的那一頭可以到九族文化村,我們的旅程沒有塔覽車這項,所以只是遠遠的看著覽車,也還好沒去坐覽車,聽說排隊的人潮不輸當年的貓覽呢~
在伊達邵~舊稱德化社,是邵族主要聚集地,有邵族傳統歌舞表演與豐富文物展示,還有琳瑯滿目及洋溢邵族風情的伊達邵商店街,不過因為時間不多怕錯過了上船的時間,沒能好好的逛逛就回到港邊等著坐船回水社了~
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天色漸漸暗下來了,許多船隻似乎競相的把握時間,要把客人平安的載回碼頭,結束了這一天的水上活動。這2010年一天一夜的行程也將在下了船再塔上遊車之後就北上回台北囉!
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吃早餐发达
吃早餐的男人 錢途無量
〔編譯鄭曉蘭/綜合報導〕男人能否擁有日幣千萬年收入,取決於吃早餐的習慣?日本以系列腦力訓練著作聞名的東北大學加齡醫學研究所教授川島隆太,去年底所進行的「早餐相關意識與實況調查」發現,大部分高所得的男性商務人士,都有規律吃早餐的習慣;有此習慣的大學生,大多也都是應屆考取。
川島曾出版「早餐決定我們的腦」一書。他在去年11月以400名大學生和500名35至44歲的男性商務人士為對象,實施網路調查,從中分析吃早餐的習慣與成功人生的關聯性。
商務人士的調查結果發現,年收入日幣千萬(約台幣358萬)以上的高所得者有82%,每天都會以某種形式吃早餐;收入700萬日幣(約台幣250萬)以上者,也有超過8成幾乎每天(每週4至5日)吃早餐。此外,年收入千萬以上且有吃早餐習慣者,有6成以上都是應屆考取大學,畢業求職獲第一志願公司錄取者也達6成以上。川島認為,有吃早餐習慣的男性似乎比較容易成為「贏家」。
大學生的調查方面,習慣吃早餐的學生中也有51%順利考取第一志願,74%為應屆考取;另有53%覺得「學生生活相當充實」,還有50%認為「自己用功唸書」。沒有吃早餐習慣的大學生,上述各項目的百分比僅止於個位數到10出頭。
川島教授對此結果分析道:「吃早餐的習慣可謂考取大學、邁向成功人生的第一步。我們可以推測,吃早餐有助實踐規律生活,同時也對商務人士所處的職場環境發揮正面影響。」
〔編譯鄭曉蘭/綜合報導〕男人能否擁有日幣千萬年收入,取決於吃早餐的習慣?日本以系列腦力訓練著作聞名的東北大學加齡醫學研究所教授川島隆太,去年底所進行的「早餐相關意識與實況調查」發現,大部分高所得的男性商務人士,都有規律吃早餐的習慣;有此習慣的大學生,大多也都是應屆考取。
川島曾出版「早餐決定我們的腦」一書。他在去年11月以400名大學生和500名35至44歲的男性商務人士為對象,實施網路調查,從中分析吃早餐的習慣與成功人生的關聯性。
商務人士的調查結果發現,年收入日幣千萬(約台幣358萬)以上的高所得者有82%,每天都會以某種形式吃早餐;收入700萬日幣(約台幣250萬)以上者,也有超過8成幾乎每天(每週4至5日)吃早餐。此外,年收入千萬以上且有吃早餐習慣者,有6成以上都是應屆考取大學,畢業求職獲第一志願公司錄取者也達6成以上。川島認為,有吃早餐習慣的男性似乎比較容易成為「贏家」。
大學生的調查方面,習慣吃早餐的學生中也有51%順利考取第一志願,74%為應屆考取;另有53%覺得「學生生活相當充實」,還有50%認為「自己用功唸書」。沒有吃早餐習慣的大學生,上述各項目的百分比僅止於個位數到10出頭。
川島教授對此結果分析道:「吃早餐的習慣可謂考取大學、邁向成功人生的第一步。我們可以推測,吃早餐有助實踐規律生活,同時也對商務人士所處的職場環境發揮正面影響。」
AVOID SUGAR CANE JUICE
避免饮用新鲜甘蔗水
Avoid Drinking Fresh Sugar Cane Juice
请花2分钟来读这篇报道,这是我朋友传给我的,他爸是在新加坡的卫生局工作。
Please take 2 mins to read this.
This email was sent by a friend whose father is working with the Ministry of the Environment in S'pore.
健康报道 - 有关甘蔗饮料
Health News - About Sugar Cane Drinks
朋友的父亲替政府卫生检查工作, 是他把这项信息传开的。
他们的工作就是要检查小贩的卫生(包刮食物,环境卫生等等)。
他们发现甘蔗水是最不卫生的,它含有超标的细菌。
A friend whose father works for the government health inspection passed on his info.
Their job is to inspect all hawkers, their cooked food, their store hygiene, etc.
They found sugar cane juice has the highest content of bacteria
among all food. In fact, it has exceeded the set limit.
从此, 他们必须找出原因。
他们去了所有的甘蔗摊子查看小贩们怎么处理甘蔗,洗杯子与及整个过程。
可是查不出什么来。
Hence, these guys had to find out why.
They went round all sugar cane stores and watched the way the hawkers handled
their sugar cane, wash their glasses, their entire procedure.
But they couldn't find the problem..
有一天,他们逗留直到摊子收摊,结果发现骇人的事实。
One day, they stayed till closing time and discovered some shocking facts!
每当摊主在收摊后就会用洗洁剂来洗地板。
想想,其余的甘蔗多数是竖立的放在摊子旁边,它的下部肯定是接触到地面。
甘蔗是多孔的,可想而知,甘蔗就会吸收所有周边的水。
除了肥皂水,小贩们鞋底的污物,猫的尿尿等等,都会被吸收。
到了第二天,老板就会拿那些渣成水来卖。
Whenever, the hawkers closed their stores, they would wash the floor with detergent..
As we know, the remaining sugar canes will be placed at the back of the store,
vertically standing and as sugar canes are very porous, they tend to absorb whatever liquid around them.
Besides the soapy water, the dirt on hawkers' boots, cats' urine, etc, will all be absorbed??
看了这篇文章,每当我在小贩中心进食,我都会劝告我的朋友关于甘蔗水的事,我还会停止饮用我最爱的~甘蔗水。
Now, whenever I eat at a hawker centre, I would warn all my friends about this
and of course I stopped drinking my favorite sugar cane juice.
还有一个超爱喝甘蔗水的朋友,她怀孕了, 还时常喝甘蔗水。
有一天,她流产了,而且胎儿已经六、七个月。
当医生做尸检以找出胎死腹中的原因,医生发现有大量化学物质的痕迹亦出现在猫尿。
A friend, who loved sugar cane juice, was pregnant. She was always drinking sugar cane juice.
Anyway, one day she miscarried and the fetus was already like 6 or 7 months old.
When the doctors did an autopsy to find out why all of a sudden the fetus had died inside her.
They found traces of some chemical substance, which was found in cat urine...
Large traces of it.
当它不会对成人构成危害,但对婴孩却是有毒的。更何况胎儿?
While it would not be able to harm adults, it was extremely toxic to babies, what more a fetus?
所以他们尝试确定为何这些猫尿会出现在胎儿。
这意味着猫尿被母体吃进并消化了,不是吗?
他们得出的最逻辑结论就是小贩把甘蔗放在潮湿且肮脏的地板,而不可能假设杂散的猫尿尿在甘蔗上或其周围。
所以,下次你购买最爱的甘蔗水前,想清楚。。。
So they tried to determine how this cat urine thing could have ended up in the fetus.
This meant that it had to be digested by the mother, right?
And the only logical conclusion they could come up with was that since these sugar cane juice stall
holders just leave the canes lying around on the wet and dirty floor,
it would not be impossible to think that stray cats could have peed on those sugar canes or near those
sugar canes. So think carefully the next time you order that favorite sugar cane juice!
请转发给所有新马的朋友。
一起行动让这世界变得更好及安全,以迎接下一代的到来。。。
Please pass this on to everyone you know in S'pore & M'sia.
Let's take action to make this world a better & safer place for all of us & the generations to come
Avoid Drinking Fresh Sugar Cane Juice
请花2分钟来读这篇报道,这是我朋友传给我的,他爸是在新加坡的卫生局工作。
Please take 2 mins to read this.
This email was sent by a friend whose father is working with the Ministry of the Environment in S'pore.
健康报道 - 有关甘蔗饮料
Health News - About Sugar Cane Drinks
朋友的父亲替政府卫生检查工作, 是他把这项信息传开的。
他们的工作就是要检查小贩的卫生(包刮食物,环境卫生等等)。
他们发现甘蔗水是最不卫生的,它含有超标的细菌。
A friend whose father works for the government health inspection passed on his info.
Their job is to inspect all hawkers, their cooked food, their store hygiene, etc.
They found sugar cane juice has the highest content of bacteria
among all food. In fact, it has exceeded the set limit.
从此, 他们必须找出原因。
他们去了所有的甘蔗摊子查看小贩们怎么处理甘蔗,洗杯子与及整个过程。
可是查不出什么来。
Hence, these guys had to find out why.
They went round all sugar cane stores and watched the way the hawkers handled
their sugar cane, wash their glasses, their entire procedure.
But they couldn't find the problem..
有一天,他们逗留直到摊子收摊,结果发现骇人的事实。
One day, they stayed till closing time and discovered some shocking facts!
每当摊主在收摊后就会用洗洁剂来洗地板。
想想,其余的甘蔗多数是竖立的放在摊子旁边,它的下部肯定是接触到地面。
甘蔗是多孔的,可想而知,甘蔗就会吸收所有周边的水。
除了肥皂水,小贩们鞋底的污物,猫的尿尿等等,都会被吸收。
到了第二天,老板就会拿那些渣成水来卖。
Whenever, the hawkers closed their stores, they would wash the floor with detergent..
As we know, the remaining sugar canes will be placed at the back of the store,
vertically standing and as sugar canes are very porous, they tend to absorb whatever liquid around them.
Besides the soapy water, the dirt on hawkers' boots, cats' urine, etc, will all be absorbed??
看了这篇文章,每当我在小贩中心进食,我都会劝告我的朋友关于甘蔗水的事,我还会停止饮用我最爱的~甘蔗水。
Now, whenever I eat at a hawker centre, I would warn all my friends about this
and of course I stopped drinking my favorite sugar cane juice.
还有一个超爱喝甘蔗水的朋友,她怀孕了, 还时常喝甘蔗水。
有一天,她流产了,而且胎儿已经六、七个月。
当医生做尸检以找出胎死腹中的原因,医生发现有大量化学物质的痕迹亦出现在猫尿。
A friend, who loved sugar cane juice, was pregnant. She was always drinking sugar cane juice.
Anyway, one day she miscarried and the fetus was already like 6 or 7 months old.
When the doctors did an autopsy to find out why all of a sudden the fetus had died inside her.
They found traces of some chemical substance, which was found in cat urine...
Large traces of it.
当它不会对成人构成危害,但对婴孩却是有毒的。更何况胎儿?
While it would not be able to harm adults, it was extremely toxic to babies, what more a fetus?
所以他们尝试确定为何这些猫尿会出现在胎儿。
这意味着猫尿被母体吃进并消化了,不是吗?
他们得出的最逻辑结论就是小贩把甘蔗放在潮湿且肮脏的地板,而不可能假设杂散的猫尿尿在甘蔗上或其周围。
所以,下次你购买最爱的甘蔗水前,想清楚。。。
So they tried to determine how this cat urine thing could have ended up in the fetus.
This meant that it had to be digested by the mother, right?
And the only logical conclusion they could come up with was that since these sugar cane juice stall
holders just leave the canes lying around on the wet and dirty floor,
it would not be impossible to think that stray cats could have peed on those sugar canes or near those
sugar canes. So think carefully the next time you order that favorite sugar cane juice!
请转发给所有新马的朋友。
一起行动让这世界变得更好及安全,以迎接下一代的到来。。。
Please pass this on to everyone you know in S'pore & M'sia.
Let's take action to make this world a better & safer place for all of us & the generations to come
PRAY FOR THE REAL
Fake Hindu swamis, sanyasis, babas, gurus and godmen thrive in a society which lacks awareness about the true essence of Hindu spirituality. Therefore Hindus and other sections of the society which provide the opportunity and fertile ground for fraudsters to thrive in the name of Hinduism are equally at fault. No fake swami can survive without ignorant and fortune-seeking followers.
The Bhagavad Gita which narrates the essence of Hindu spirituality contains only 700 verses. There are excellent translation and commentary of Bhagavad Gita which cost less than 100 rupees. But majority of the Hindus have no time to read the 700 verses but spend money, energy and time visiting ashrams and spiritual centers of such fake babas and gurus.
If you make this an issue, immediately comes the answer, Bhagavad Gita is hard to digest for common people like us, we are ignorant. It is for the common people that the learned men of yesteryears have translated the Gita into all regional languages. They have provided excellent translations and have interpreted the great dialogue between Arjuna and Krishna into the simplest language.
Is not understanding Gita the real issue? NO
The real issue is that Gita doesn’t talk about methods to become super rich overnight. Neither do Gita have mantras to find treasures hidden underground or to get promotions or provide miracle cure to diseases. Gita also does not recommend pujas to destroy your enemies. And above all Gita does not predict the future.
But the fake swamis and godmen only talk about future, money and predictions, pujas and innumerable homams to cure diseases where medical science has failed. Sadly, this is what many Hindus want to hear.
Daily we get to hear about such fake swamis and their notorious activities – which include rape, amassing wealth through dishonorable means – but this has not deterred many Hindus from approaching fraudsters. But, why?
Both the fake Godmen and his followers are fortune seekers. Godmen is using religion to become rich and conduct other antisocial activities. Followers are fortune seekers who want the help of an outside agency to reach God and bribe God and amass wealth and know future.
Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.
A true Sanyasi will never advertise. He/She is like a flower. People reach them following the fragrance. They will not even bother to talk to fortune-seekers. Silence is there best weapon which frustrate most fortune seekers in minutes. They might open up the knowledge treasure to a genuine seeker whom a true Sanyasi will easily identify – just like Ramakrishna identified Vivekananda.
No Sanyasi or Godmen has said anything new that is not found in the Upanishads, Gita, Ramayana, Yoga Vasishta and Mahabharata. All these texts are readily available in the market. Pick any of these Holy Scriptures and read a few pages daily. Soon we will realize the futility of going to such fake gurus.
Hinduism believes in individual self realization and not borrowed or rented or bought self realization. Always remember the Brahman that resides in the most respected guru or spiritual leader also resides in us. The only difference is that we have not bothered to realize it.
If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault. And if you find that a swami is fake, never hesitate to report it to the authorities. Such fake swamis and Godmen should not find protection in Hindu religion.
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52 comments:
Anonymous said...
The document is good for people who go to Hindu sanyasis and struggle to understand whether they are true or fake.. How about adding the lists of fake gurus/sanyasis in the BLOG for others to know at first hand information??
July 9, 2008 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Ha. You're missing the point. You must detect YOURSELF rather some is true or a faker. Asking someone else's opinion is just giving away your own inner power one more time.
So many of the "godmen" just love to slide their hands (and other body parts) all over nearby females when they are along and think no one is looking...
I could tell you many tales - even from the Kumbha Mela in Ujjain... so many are just dirty old men in private.
You will find God in your OWN heart... all by yourself. For free.
August 1, 2008 2:17 AM
Anonymous said...
yeah i agree but thats doesnt mean that all are fakes many true and good saints are there... wherz good therz bad to
in otherwords we should beware of those dirty missionaries who plans to spoil our great hindus saints name,because of these saints their crap work of convertion doesnt work
September 13, 2008 9:41 PM
HOBO said...
Very true. I agree.
We all are emotional by heart and we all are some way or other surrounded by some or other problem.
These fake people(I do not want to use the word sadhu for fake person) psychologically cheat us and Our fault is that we blindly listen to them without using our mind.
Believe in God - The Mantra
:)
Best-Wishes !!!
September 22, 2008 12:21 PM
dcosta_halo said...
Hi Friends,
Thanks for nice views.
The real reason i think for going to so called fake people is to avoid thinking and putting efforts in disciplining oneself for quicker gains and get cheated in processes & coming out as bitter not better person at end of transaction with so called fake persons not sadhus, correctly put by one of friend above.
Its not the fake people who are solely resposible for ourself being cheated but our own desire to get benefits instantly without work.
Personally like verse 1 of chapter 6 which describes a true sanyasi(sadhu) which is:
"anshrita karma phala karyam karm karoti yaha,
saha sanyasi cha yogi cha na niragni na cha akriyah"
2 qualities described of sadhu are:
1-engaged in action with an ideal
2-not worried about fruits of action
not one who avoids action , doesnot have fire(agni) or ideal or goal.
So lets be alert with our own wishes of avoiding self effort, thinking for quick gains,to prevent being cheated.
Manoj
manoj.kausal@gmail.com
December 12, 2008 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
i have studied shastra thoroughly and been very close to many saints and after many years i have come to believe that there really are no such thing as saints or god-people, unless you go very close you will never know and unless you know any "sant" as well as you know yourself we cannot call them sant. grihasthas are more godly any day
February 10, 2009 9:34 PM
Dennis said...
One criterion I use is this. How often is money asked for? One guru told me, "Spiritual Wisdom is never for sale."
http://www.aumnamahshivaya.org.in/new1/english/book.html
February 11, 2009 12:49 AM
Anonymous said...
i was very closely invovled with a very famous spiritual organization and like anything else politically indian it is all about power and corrution, this is kalyug guys stay awat from them
February 24, 2009 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...
yes many people have had such experience even from reputed organizations but mostly they are all money hungry people who use shasta for their own benefits and how far they have sunk they do not even know
February 24, 2009 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...
You're right and wrong. So many people seem lost and seek help. So many people dream to become their guide. It's human life.
As far as truth is concerned, it's not a problem. Who are we to say that something or someone bad is really bad. You see, even shit (like manure for eg) has its value and work to do.
Nobody has never been lost. Moksha cannot be attained, otherwise you may be able to loose it, so it will not be moksha, pure infinity without boundaries.
The fish can ponder and ask for advise. The truth is that the fish is the sea. And at the same time it has its own peculiar life to live.
false and true is a dichotomy, its more a problem for abrahamic religions, not asian ones.
All gurus are jerks, fake as long as you consider these being able to bring you to the moon. They can only show (live) the moon.
When you are in truth, you are the truth.
Now concerning this process to become conscious to be conscious. Yes, it exists, but it is only an experience, bound in time and space.
Now if you want to know how it looks like, imagine..
That you jump from an international flight ...without parachute. Or you touch the wires of a high tension pole. or you are on you way to the moon but you are tighten on the outside of the space shuttle.
Nobody wxants to die, nor disappear. Its not a human process. So don't worry about fake or true gurus. They are jokers. That's why saainthood is related to laughter. When you are awakened, there is no separation, no division, no problemo.
Ananda
March 9, 2009 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...
What is a guru ? A guru is not a man, belonging to a certain fold. A guru can be anything that instructs you. At the difference of abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), Asian religions are not one size fit all stuff. It’s a private relation between you and God. Life speaks to you in many different ways. It’s up to you to listen and look.
A guru can be a dead leaf, or the sunlight on a rose bud. He can be your annoying neighbor, your irritating mother in-law, a dog, a dog drop, anything. It can be a simple word or a thing or a person that has a connection with, that talks to you, at a certain moment. That’s why you can read all religious books without perceiving anything in them. And surprisingly, read a cookbook and find a real answer for you. That’s the beauty of a creative life.
Man creates his own problems and then cries. There are no problems in life, only a swirl of energy, continuously unfolding, moving. And you cannot solve a problem. There is no solution for a problem. You have to get a new vision in which you drop the problem and adopt a new way that will be your solution.
Man wants to be certain, secure, helped. This denotes his fear and confusion. Man believes he is a poor human being, alone in the universe. Man is full of godliness and in total connection with what is, the manifestation. He is already realized, accepted, dipped in life. The work of a human guru is to dispel his ignorance even if this hurts the follower’s ego. He is there to help him avoid hard stones on the path. A guru is a killer, he has nothing to do with you, (drop that loving image Amma, Sai Baba and Cy, gentle guru stuff from your mind – please, same thing as fake or true guru thing). Nothing to do with money (but what’s wrong with money?) or human desires and vices (but what’s wrong with desires). A guru has his life to live. He goes to bed at night, scratch his ass in the morning, poo, take breakfast, burp, shout or scream, pass urine, etc. He is a normal guy. Why do we want to see him as an alien coming from planet Mars? He has no wings attached to his back and can’t convert rupees into dollars (sorry buddy, choose Euro instead, dollar is a dead donkey).
Ananda
March 10, 2009 1:57 AM
Rahul said...
Last two comments from Anonymous are thoughts of wise! Good and evil are two sides of the same coin(Brahman)."To get the real, you must know what is fake"!It is called dance of duality.
March 13, 2009 1:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Very enlightening thoughts-Ananda-u have become our guru for the minute we took to read your deep comments-will like to discuss more with you-i get the impression though that one spiritual path will not be the same if one does not meet a human guru...
March 23, 2009 10:53 PM
Dr. Aman Biswas said...
Which is fake which is true None of or buisness. You so ever is takling about God is a step in your life!!. NEVER THINK Topmost step near roof is only Important. keep on steping the fisrt step was equally important. If you have fear of reaching saints just thinking they may not be true Hey man!! How will you become a discoverer. Well God bless you all in your search towards truth. Your own mind is gateway to hell or heaven!!
April 6, 2009 7:57 PM
Arthur Sanchez said...
Dear Friends,
This is the test of genuine sincerity. Those who do not deeply desire God will get what they want. The fake in the name of the Real.
Those who truly desire God never fail to get Him.
April 11, 2009 11:29 PM
sujesh said...
So could any of you tell me what Amma and Sai Baba are teaching right or wrong? other words are they real sanyasins or fake?
April 13, 2009 5:13 PM
Satyakama said...
Dear Sujesh,
If you truly desire to know whether Amma or Sai Baba are real, then look deep into your own heart. Only there can you find God, the Truth.
It really doesn't matter what the objective world says. All that matters is what your divine heart says.
Sacrifice is the key to knowledge and knowing is seeing. What are you willing to sacrifice for this knowledge, Sujesh?
Do not follow the masses blindly because someone says that they are Gods. Find out the truth for yourself.
April 14, 2009 4:43 AM
SRK4U said...
Look with an unbiased mind, If you are convinced then you can trust them. If these people are for real you will understand or rather feel it. Think rationally and decide. Dont just believe if anybod says anything whether +ve or -ve.
Word "guru" means one who removes the darknes. Darkness abt anything - lyf, god or anything at all.
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes,it's true that there are fake swamis.But they are many great gurus too.Just because many are fake,one should not distrust all.
The "GURU" or the teacher is regarded highly in hindu religion,even equivalent to GOD.The underlying thought is that it's thru GURU that you know GOD.
Like it's been brought out by the writer of this article("abhilash"),a true GURU never tells us how to get better in material life.But,it's seen that those who follow spiritual practices and are rooted in the self,will be provided more that what they ask materially also.
The Bhagvad Gita and many books of Hinduism is not as simple as it is made out to be.T understand the essence of these books we really need a learned teacher(At least,I feel I am not intelligent enough to understand what these books say,they do create confusion at times,again I may be totally wrong in what I say)
One problem which many of us face is that we keep doubting wether the "GURU" prcaitcies what he preaches.I feel if some one teaches you to do good and if he himself does not follow it,we need not bother.We should do good and not have doubt in the teachings.If a Guru does soemthing wrong,he will have to answer for that.
I Just happened to bump into this blog,find it quite interesting and nice.Thanks
May 17, 2009 3:10 PM
Tess said...
Since Atman is within us all-when we read, study, contempate on what we have read-won't the Atman reveal the right path for us to understand Brahman at whatever level we might be in our present state?
I wanted to see past Maya and so I did for a time give a far away guru money for advice, but as the cost rose I realized this was not the right thing to do- in the old sense of the guru/student role. But I could be mistaken-because the Vedas say we must preform sacrifices and give gifts (among other things.) What is a sacrifice or gift if money isn't involved in this modern day and age?
I have come to understand a false guru as one who would lead us away from knowing there is God within ourselves, and as someone who does not treat his students as if they were already God. The finest example of a true guru was Sri Ramakrishna in my opinion.
May 27, 2009 6:28 AM
Anonymous said...
Many Hindus today believe that by accepting one (or more!) of the swamis who come to the scene like any advertised commercial service/product, they will be able to ensure, 1) a name in society as a good person irrespective of whether they have an unsavoury past record in this regard, 2) they will be able to ensure a front seat in heaven ( balcony if it is a cinema!) after their death through the Guru's efforts, just as we are able to get many things done in this world by bribing the right person for each thing, and 3) if they have much unaccounted money/wealth, the Guru's ashram will serve as a safe place to hide such wealth and ensure reasonable or even very high returns through stock-market operations regularly done by the ashrams (including the Kanchi mutt, which I know for a fact).
June 3, 2009 7:20 PM
sunil rathee said...
Have any one heard about Swami Dyananda , he was the only person who saved Hindu Dharma and its holyness by providing rear vedas to all indians. In 1850 when there were around 2500 panth in India and so many bad works were going on like sati pratha , bal vivah , no education to girls , jati pratha , chua-chut etc, people were converting to other religion because the dase of Hindu dharm i.e. Vedas were not followed anly some literatures of pandits like puranas were followed and people think the brahman as God . That time swami Dyanand remove all those panth and spread the light of vedas all around and saved Vedic Dharma. For Future he make a institute known as Arya Samaj which works a lot for Hindus. They removes alll the bad rituals from hindu dharma. The first school for girls and lower casts was founded by Swami dyanand only.Every sanyasi give comments on the top of How to get God only , No one care about Human Being. After Swami Dyanada death his followers gave a lot of contribution in country independence , His followers like Lala lajpatrai , Bhagat Singh , Pan Prasad Bismil , Chandersekhar Azad , all were Arya samaji's. This time Graet Yog Guru Swami Ramdev is also a follower of Arya samaj and get his all education from Gurukula's which are run by Arya samaj followers. Before Swami Dyanand no one ( a family person) was aware about Yoga. But He and his followers made it.
This is the biggest contribution of any Sanyasi ever.
June 12, 2009 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Ultimately it all comes back to within us.Fake or not one must be able to use ones judgement ..althugh some donation to upkeep the movement is O.K. Again unless one is on a journey to find -its useless to follow blindly
June 24, 2009 1:14 PM
Ram said...
This is a very good discussion with sensible comments. Modern technology helps us to uncover the bogus and the fakes. For example, night vision cameras have exposed seances with apparitions as being nothing but tricks with mirrors. Nobody does this trick any more since night vision cameras became commonly available. And a slow motion replay of a video camera exposed a so-called sadhu and maharishi who could change dirt in the palm of his hand into a lotus flower. It was nothing more than a sleight of hand that any competent professional magician can perform.
My question is this. Are the sadhus and sanyasis all 100% fakes and charlatans, or are there some genuine ones living today? I am certain that you will not find the real ones in the kumbh melas - these events are show pieces for the media and an industry designed to rip off the gullible and rich.
So where are the genuine ones? Do they exist? or are we genuinely surrounded by 100% charlatans?
If you can name the ones living today who you genuinely believe are the real articles, I will be very happy to look into and report back.
July 15, 2009 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...
hey every saint and guru is not like this.See the ancient gurus you have just heard some of your relative or some family member speaking all this and wrote.Also in hinduism is told about the ego that is devil and the self and soul nedds to be one to defeatit.The ego is not to be destroyed but it dessolves itself when we are one with the divine.Are the gurus fake.You know who is the guru of people who have no guru,its SRI KRISHNA.So you do one thing go and don't even read the GITA as it is told by the ETERNAL MASTER SRI KRISHNA JAGATGURU.It s said that KRISHNAM VANDE JAGAT GURU ok and you tell fake that guus talk about wealth and all that is matrialistic then see the todays guru.The best guru today PARAM PUJYA SRI SRI RAVISHANKAR JI See the holinesss in him.See how he uttered the GITA at the age of four the second verse by himself untaught.You see his things taught then you will understand this thing.You know however you reside in yourself but when in need only GURU'S GRACE helps you.If you are working on something very much its taking too much of your time but with your GURU'S GRACE you won't need to work so long or practice something so longs.You will do a little and GURU'S GRACE will help you throughout.Same in KARMA.KARMA can only be cleared with the help of KNOWLEDGE and this knowledge is not the G.K. you read everyday it's residing inside and that's nothing without GURU'S help.OK.Go and see SRI SRI RAVISHANKARJI'S talks and you will understand what a real GURU is and you will surely get your questions's answer.See how this GURU answers your questions in secons.And atleast continue your work rather than complaining about he GURU'S.You don't have a GURU doesn't mean we also do not have ok good bye jai gurudev.OK i again tell you the meaning of JAI GURUDEV.It means victory to the big mind as big minds thinks of better things and not temporary happiness and materialism and this is the bigger nature and we have to get rid of the smaller mind and nature by saying JAI GURUDEV.Also if you follow fun misery follows you and if you follow knowledge fun follows you.I hope this was a good entertaining lecture for you.Only this much for now JAI GURUDEV good bye
July 24, 2009 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...
I am amazed at the way some swamis charging fee (200-1000 dollars) for a meditation session.In the name of donation to their organisation,they charge enormous amounts from naive followers.
One doesn't need so many meditation techniques to realise bliss.Simple awreness of breathing if enuff.
July 24, 2009 6:17 AM
Ravi said...
True godmen are like pearls which are found at the bottom of the ocean, And only garbage floats on top for everyone to see.
August 4, 2009 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...
Who is to decide true or false? How many of us householders are leading good lives? Do we worship? Are we truthful? do we have control over our appetites? And we are ready to criticize our sadhus.
the greatest problem of hinduism is this stupid criticisim of our own people. And we run after monks and priests of other religions. Do you know how corrupt they are? Any idea?
fools!
September 10, 2009 9:42 PM
ranjithmails said...
I am not sure, if all so called saints and sanyasis today are fake .. though I suspect most are fake ..
Hinduism itself says that u need to have a Guru to make spiritual progress .. Right ?? Bhagavad Gita itself says that .. I forget the exact verse ..
I have personally felt that -- Fake or not, the effect most so called Gurus have on their devotees is very positive .. I am not sure if the so called famous godmen from South India who are living today(u know who I am talking about, I dont want to mention names here) are genuine or not .. But their devotees are certainly more on the spiritual path than the normal Hindu .. No doubt about it .. I have seen many many ppl who have become so pure at heart after being involved with such Godmen .. They shell out their own money to do charities and help other people( remember its not even just dontaing some money) .. they do bhajans every week .. and they have God on their lips all the time .. Many of them actually try to carry out atleast some of the good teachings of their so called Gurus and change themselves positively both in their thoughts and in their actions..
Irrespective of if the Guru is fake or not, most of their devotees strongle believe that their Guru, who is God himself, is always with them and no harm can happen to them when the Guru is with them .. And when some bad things do happen in their lives(like it will happen in everyones lives), they believe its due to their karma and move on ahead ..
Let me clarify I am not the devotee of any living Guru, but I have had the oppurtunity to interact with many of their devotees closely ..
Like the saying goes
Gurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah, Gurur Saakshaat Parabrahma, Tasmay Shree Guruvay Namaha ..
September 14, 2009 2:06 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same.
October 1, 2009 4:23 PM
neelkumar said...
Haii dera It's very Useful
October 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Anonymous said...
The article completely rules out a good calibre Guru, rather it preaches that one should seek the scriptures to realize. If that was possible we won't be here. I have read many books multiple times, they mean different things until I experienced somethings under a calibre Guru the scriptures is just a wisdom statement. To give an example, Lord Krishna says at the end of Vishnu Sahasranama ;
Yo mam nama sahasrena strotum ichheti pandavah! soham ekena slokena stuteva nasamshayah! Stueva nasamshayah om nama iti!
There are thousands names sloka in the sahasrnama, it is difficult to remember them, so many ask this question to him. His reply is very simple, subtle and unambiguous ;
Out of the slokas of these thousand names, if one can recite one sloka with no doubt, one can commune with him eternally ....
How is this possible ? It is only possible with constant practise of meditation (pick a sloka, mediate on the meaning of it) with devotion for the divine for some time, the mind which is fickle by nature will mend and reach what the heart is looking for. This can be attained only by an assistance of (I repeat) a calibre Guru, it is impossible to reach God without a Guru, even avatara purusha had a Guru and if one has read the scriptures correctly, here is one from Guru Shankaracharya ;
Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah! Guru sakshat ParaBrahmah tasmai Shree Gureva Namah!
When the priest in the temple asks gotra during sankalpa, how many of us know who is being referred ? It is one of the SaptaRishi's (seven priomordial saints) or the lineage from whom we have descended. Every human being have a gotra, the scripture go beyond and tell if one does not have gothra, one can adopt "kashyap" saptharishi. But for spiritual progress one needs a living calibre Guru.
Ofcourse there are many fake gurus in this world who are materially motivated, the onus to screen the Guru is on the sincere aspirant to find out if the guru will take from point a to b or is s/he after money or fame.
October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Hello. I do not know why I am putting the following personal comments in this section. I suppose part of developing trust means not knowing everything all the time.
Friends, Baba has said that if a devotee has dedicated his/her whole existence to Him, then prayer is no longer needed.
Personally, I know I have not fully done so. Do you know why? Because I fear. And why do I fear? Because I do not fully trust Him? And why don't I fully trust Him? Because I do not fully trust myself. This is my weakness.
So, even though I continuously affirm that my life is a prayer, I pray. I pray that the Lord makes me a more dependent devotee on Him without fear. I am willing to fully surrender, but I cannot without His grace. The spirit is willing, but the flesh, the mind and brain, are weak.
Is this not the same with all other genuine aspirants? Is this not a sign of a saint in the making?
October 31, 2009 11:30 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Here I am again. I hope you all enjoy my interpretation of the following question and answer quotes.
Q: "You are Bhagavan. So you should know when I shall get jnana. Tell me when I shall be a jnani?"
A: "If I am Bhagavan there is no one besides the Self - therefore no jnani or ajnani. If otherwise, I am as good as you are and know as much as yourself. Either way I cannot answer your question?"
Sri Ramana Maharshi
Did Ramana merely shirk the question? Many would say, yes. Why? Because they would think that as an omniscient soul he would know. However, the important word to understand here is the word "cannot". Cannot does not mean know not. Therefore, the important question to ask is: why couldn't Ramana answer the question? The question was fully answered, but not all in words. Let me finish his sentence and then let us see if he shirked the question. "Either way I cannot answer your question" [with absolute accuracy, because the future is not predetermined].
Ramana liked to play this game. He would often end a sentence and then allow a receptive spirit to finish it by following the Self. It sounds insane, doesn't it? The joy of this revelation is inexpressible, the Self.
Only a jnani can understand a jnani.
Arthur
November 2, 2009 8:55 AM
Sundaram said...
Actually, the omnipotent Guru always knows better when to impart knowledge to a deserving disciple. So it is wrong to ask Guru "When will I become Dnyaani". Instead one should focus on Spiritual Practice.
November 3, 2009 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same
November 9, 2009 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I know of one such fake saint : Dr. Dakshinamurthy Dixit from Kohir. Dixit..very popularly known as "Ayyagaru" is such a person who traps people into his vemonous loop by playing around their weakness, blackmails them emotionally and sentimentally and lures off their wealth. He destroyed many families and seized and grabbed many innocent people properties getting relinquished on his name himself. He even seized Sri Omkareswara Temple of Kohir. In the name of homas, pujas, this person lures people in the form of huge amounts of grains, gold, silver, and many precious ornaments giving the name as "Guru Dakshina". God Shiva and Goddess Parvathi themselves should punish this Dixit to such an extent that he should die a street dog death stoned by people themselves.Atleast this way, other innocent people lives and families will be saved. There can be no doubt that he had even grabbed and occupied the Kohir's Omkareswar temple. I'm a sufferer of this Dixit myself. He smashed my family life in the name of homa and pujas.
Please help me in exposing this dixit and give an end to his drama once for all.
November 9, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...
i completely agree. for me it is AC bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada, a true spiritual soul, only here to serve krishna and spread his name. all those bogus asses, like sai baba (not the one who lived long ago (shedi)) but this other dude who is alive and in a wheelchair or something... that fag... but thank you
November 15, 2009 5:18 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Hello, again. Here is some food for thought. How irrational is it to call a murderer a Christian?
The following article heading is an example of how dumb, deaf and blind the world really is: "Two Egyptian Christians get death sentence for murder."
Proclaiming Christianity does make one a Christian nor does it define a Christian. This statement holds good for all religions.
You think that there are many fake swamis and gurus in this world, but consider the "billions" of fake disciples professing all sorts of religions. Worldliness attempting to proclaim spirituality is the Great Lie and also the Great Test. This is how God separates the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, the lions from the sheep.
Consider the gatherings of Sai Baba, for example. Do you honestly think that they are mostly all genuine disciples? Superficial kindness and respect is not a genuine consideration.
Friends, genuine disciples are nearly as rare as genuine gurus. Seek out both. Unfortunately the reality is is that people want blessings and not Truth. How fortunate then for the ignorant to be in the presence of a real guru. However, a genuine disciple will give up even good fortune for Truth alone.
November 15, 2009 10:11 PM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.
What To Give And What To Take.
If one takes, one will be taken from. If one gives, one will be given to. This is the Law. This is Karma.
Therefore, one should always strive to give love and take sins. This is how one blesses oneself and cleanses the world. This is what the saints do. This is God's work.
November 25, 2009 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...
‘Taarak Braham’ - the ‘GURU’ (Spiritual Master)
Today, the concept of ‘Taarak Braham’, ‘Taarak Braham Kee Mahasambhuti’ & and in taantrik language ‘Maha Kaul’ has gone oblivious. ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only the Spiritual Master – the ‘Adhyaatmik Guru’. “Gurur Brahama, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah Gurureva Parama Brahama Tasmai Shree Guruvey Namah” signifies that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only ‘Guru’ and it is Salute for Him. Non other than the ‘Taarak Braham’ is ‘Guru’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ had appeared in capacity as ‘Taarak Braham’ [the manifestation of Supreme Consciousness in Human Form – the connecting point between Qualified (Sagun) Braham and the Non-Qualified (Nirgun) Braham - the relative world and the pure consciousness] on this earth 7500 years back. Thereafter another ‘Taarak Braham’ who inundated this Earth with His Grace was ‘Lord Krishna’ 3,500 years back in India.
November 25, 2009 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)
The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’.
So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’.
(Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life).
Taarak Braham Kee Jai |
Thanks
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
‘THE GURU’
The word ‘Gu’ means darkness and ‘ru’ to dispel So collectively the words ‘Gu+ru’ denote - that great personality who dispels the darkness. India is a country of spirituality. For the first time, the seed of spirituality sprouted somewhere in ‘Central Asia’- the abode of Aryans. All know, the ‘RIGVEDA’- the first knowledge on spirituality and relative world, ‘was propounded by the Aryans’. The science of spirituality is root cause for the origination of ‘RIGVEDA’. Presently, in Europe there is place by the name ‘RIGA’. So it will not be out of place to mention here that the name ‘RIGA’ has been derived from the Sanskrit word ‘RIK’ thereafter ‘RIG’ – the ‘VEDA’ - that has ‘Rik’ & ‘RICHA’ in plural. So ‘RIGVEDA’ the holy book of oldest spiritual knowledge in India (which was brought to India by the Aryans). The present natives (our overseas brothers) of Europe must understand that they are the offsprings of Caucasians (Aryans)- the ancestors of the Indo-Aryans. From the spirituality point of view, all are the progeny of same cosmic father. Science and anthropology recognize us as ‘Homosapiens’. Be it -Aryans, Mongolians, Austrics, Negroids or Dravidians’ all are the ‘Homosapiens’.
The point of our discussion is ‘Aadhyatmik Guru’ the ‘Master of Spirituality’. The word: ‘Taarak Braham’ is a Sanskrit word. In English language, perhaps there is no equivalent terminology for the words ‘Tarak Braham’ , ‘Mahasambhuti’ and ‘Maha Kaul’, etc. . ‘Kaul’ are those who have raised their ‘Kundalini Shakti’ (the Serpentine Force that is lying in a latent state at the lowest ending point of spinal cord) for the spiritual union with ‘Param Shiva’ (seated between the secret point of eyebrows) by dint of their own rigorous efforts / practice.
‘Maha Kaul’ were those who had not only raised their own ‘Kundalini Shakti’ but were rather still are authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners (Aam Adhyatmik Saadhak) by a mere spiritual touch or on oral command. (Mahakaul can raise the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the animals also) The word ‘Maha Kaul’ is a esoteric (tantrik) language word. So, it is not known by the common people. In Kashmir, Kashmiri Brahmins / Pandits place the title ‘Kaul’ or ‘Kaw’ after their names. So it must be understood that formerly the ancestors of those Pandits / Brahmins were the follower of ‘Kaulachar’ (They were Kaulachari Pandits). ‘Kaulachar’ - the cult of spirituality that has the practice of raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the personalities on this Earth who were authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners by a mere spiritual touch or on a oral command.
(Contd…….1/1……. below:-)
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)
The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’.
So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’.
(Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life).
Taarak Braham Kee Jai |
November 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Abhilash,
Hello. I was wondering where I may add some miscellaneous comments. For example,
What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs".
I have realized that the hardest things for a person to give up are not his/her properties or even his/her loved ones, but rather, the hardest things for a person to give up are his/her cherished beliefs. A person's identity, existence, depends on it.
Overcoming cherished beliefs are his greatest obstacles, because they are his most valuable possessions. A man would rather lose his life with his egoic existence intact, then to give up his attachment to cherished beliefs for fear of losing his identity. He diligently works to be a good somebody in this world instead of a divine nobody.
For example, look how the different religions fight to protect their own identities as if their very existence depended on it. It is cherished beliefs that are at the core of their fighting. Is this not so?
This is why it so hard to find an ego that is willing to sacrifice everything, especially its own beliefs on all levels of thought, for Truth alone. It is this desire that leads to the highest life and philosophy, the fairest of all God's flowers.
November 28, 2009 8:36 AM
abhilash said...
@ Arthur...you can publish it as article itself...send us your articles and we will publish it say it has been contributed by you....You can also contact me via hindublog@gmail.com
November 28, 2009 8:55 AM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.
I want to thank you, Abhilash, for responding. I will contact you via the gmail address.
However, my purpose on this link is to comment on real and fake swamis and gurus. May the following words illuminate minds.
"Do not judge according to appearances". A deceiver will see deception in another. A lover will see love in another. The self-centered will see self-centeredness in another. Etc., etc. We all see this world and each other according to "our own" mental and spiritual dispositions.
For example, I "know" that Sai Baba is God. How do I know? Because I know the truth. I have experienced it. To "believe" in something is merely the first step towards knowing the truth of the belief. One must next seek to experience "subjectively" the belief. Do not build your houses on the grounds of belief, because like sand, the house is not based on a stable foundation.
Those who believe in Sai Baba, for instance, are fortunate. But this fortune will be short lived if the believers do not experience the truth. They must desire to know for a fact. The greatest blessing is in knowing and not in merely believing. Knowledge is bliss, is love, in the highest. A believer can be deceived, but not a knower. It is the experience of truth which makes us know that is the basis of real faith. Yes or no?
The world's "objective" approach to God is the result of its own ignorance. If this be the truth and nothing but the truth, then who am I?
November 30, 2009 12:34 AM
Hindu said...
Well its true there are fakes around but there are also many genuine ones around as well.So we have to be careful that we don’t just give the impression that all of them are fake..Many times because of the anti Hindu groups involved and their influence in the media they like portraying Hindu holymen as fakes.You will notice the Indian media will go overboard ‘exposing’ of alleged scandals but soon as it turns out to not be true you wont hear a whimper because its better to keep the false rumours alive so people who don’t know the facts keep on believing them.. A good example was the alleged expose of Sathya Sai baba when he was falsely accused of child abuse by some American guy where even a BBC documentary was made over the issue..Few years later this same guy withdrew his case in the US when it turned out that most of his accusations didn’t add up and he was about to be exposed but did the media report that ? Not at all. So we have to be very careful with just giving general statements about Hindu gurus being fake..And at the end of the day who are keeping Hinduism alive to the masses ? The many Hindu swamis and gurus out here working day and night.Of course in-between there are some scammers but that’s in other parts of life as well and you just have to be cautious overall..
December 21, 2009 10:31 PM
itispals said...
A nice discussion. Good to see the various points of view. My belief is that a coin has two sides. So, is Nature.
It is we who have classified things as "Good" & "Bad". What is good for me, can appear as bad for others and what is "bad" for others may appear as "good" for me?
Isn't this the universal truth.
Two Stand Out Sentences:
"Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many."
"If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault."
May be falling in the trap is also a way to realize the Truth :)
Arthur's Posts were very much insightful. "What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs"."
Finally, Abilash you are doing a great Job. Keep it up.
Itispals
January 4, 2010 2:18 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
Talking about Sanyasis -- we might see more fake than real ones. Reason? if they were real, they would have realized the meaninglessness of this materialistic life and wouldn't give a damn for publicity and they might live their life in "their own world" trying to find the truth about this life and teaching their findings to their Shishyas (students)! They don't need publicity or political power for that!
My mom used to be a big believer of a "human god". He could bring gold chains etc from thin air! I used to wonder why he differentiates between Gold and other material? (I must admit that these human Gods do a lot of charity work compared to our politicians). Does God really care if you put Gold ornaments on him/her/it? Do you think God uses all that "bribe" you put in collection boxes in various Hindu temples? Who uses all that money? -- Hindus don't have a culture of charity work like (other) religions.
So even in modern Hinduism it is all about greed -- for money, publicity and power!
January 13, 2010 11:42 AM
SATVIC said...
A true living Guru, who works hard and travel all over the palces is SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. By simple yoga/meditation techniques and knowledge sessions he has helped millions around the world to understand the meaning of life and conduct life in more joyful manner. Art of Living foundation started by Sri Sri has been working in various humanitarian projects like, Education for Underprivilaged, Health to all, Organic farming, Women self healp groups, Alcohal/Drug addiction and many.
Sri Sri is a true guru living as per the principles of Sanadhana Dharma
January 14, 2010 6:00 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
This is in response to SATVIC's comments about "Sri sri Ravi Shankar".
I certainly agree that Mr Ravi Shankar is doing a great job of trying to help people to lead a happy materialistic life. Not by his classes of breathing techniques (improvised Pranayama), but by the advises he gives about "Art of Living". Luckily he has not (yet) started claiming himself as God. I personally respect him as an individual until he start claiming that he is an incarnation of God. This is his business (for monitory benefits). Nothing wrong in doing that in this materialistic world, if you ask me.
I have attended one week class of "Art of Living". It was not free. Nothing can be free in this (materialistic) world. What really moved me was - most of his "devotees" do not understand "Art of Living" even after attending the class. All of them go there just for one reason -- "networking". In addition to this "Art of Networking", all they want to do is some "breathing exercise". Thus Art of Living became synonymous to Breathing Exercise (like SATVIC mentioned in the above post)!!
(.. oh well I guess I misunderstood the meaning of "Art of Living", otherwise I would have paid Rs 150,000 to "purchase" a teacher's job in one of "Hindu religion's" college fifteen years ago!! I was too adamant that even though I am also leading a materialistic life, I did not want to go down to their level).
Even this materialistic world would have been a much better place if Ravi Shankar could make people understand the real meaning of "Art of Living" (without stressing too much on Pranayama).
January 15, 2010 12
The Bhagavad Gita which narrates the essence of Hindu spirituality contains only 700 verses. There are excellent translation and commentary of Bhagavad Gita which cost less than 100 rupees. But majority of the Hindus have no time to read the 700 verses but spend money, energy and time visiting ashrams and spiritual centers of such fake babas and gurus.
If you make this an issue, immediately comes the answer, Bhagavad Gita is hard to digest for common people like us, we are ignorant. It is for the common people that the learned men of yesteryears have translated the Gita into all regional languages. They have provided excellent translations and have interpreted the great dialogue between Arjuna and Krishna into the simplest language.
Is not understanding Gita the real issue? NO
The real issue is that Gita doesn’t talk about methods to become super rich overnight. Neither do Gita have mantras to find treasures hidden underground or to get promotions or provide miracle cure to diseases. Gita also does not recommend pujas to destroy your enemies. And above all Gita does not predict the future.
But the fake swamis and godmen only talk about future, money and predictions, pujas and innumerable homams to cure diseases where medical science has failed. Sadly, this is what many Hindus want to hear.
Daily we get to hear about such fake swamis and their notorious activities – which include rape, amassing wealth through dishonorable means – but this has not deterred many Hindus from approaching fraudsters. But, why?
Both the fake Godmen and his followers are fortune seekers. Godmen is using religion to become rich and conduct other antisocial activities. Followers are fortune seekers who want the help of an outside agency to reach God and bribe God and amass wealth and know future.
Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many.
A true Sanyasi will never advertise. He/She is like a flower. People reach them following the fragrance. They will not even bother to talk to fortune-seekers. Silence is there best weapon which frustrate most fortune seekers in minutes. They might open up the knowledge treasure to a genuine seeker whom a true Sanyasi will easily identify – just like Ramakrishna identified Vivekananda.
No Sanyasi or Godmen has said anything new that is not found in the Upanishads, Gita, Ramayana, Yoga Vasishta and Mahabharata. All these texts are readily available in the market. Pick any of these Holy Scriptures and read a few pages daily. Soon we will realize the futility of going to such fake gurus.
Hinduism believes in individual self realization and not borrowed or rented or bought self realization. Always remember the Brahman that resides in the most respected guru or spiritual leader also resides in us. The only difference is that we have not bothered to realize it.
If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault. And if you find that a swami is fake, never hesitate to report it to the authorities. Such fake swamis and Godmen should not find protection in Hindu religion.
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52 comments:
Anonymous said...
The document is good for people who go to Hindu sanyasis and struggle to understand whether they are true or fake.. How about adding the lists of fake gurus/sanyasis in the BLOG for others to know at first hand information??
July 9, 2008 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Ha. You're missing the point. You must detect YOURSELF rather some is true or a faker. Asking someone else's opinion is just giving away your own inner power one more time.
So many of the "godmen" just love to slide their hands (and other body parts) all over nearby females when they are along and think no one is looking...
I could tell you many tales - even from the Kumbha Mela in Ujjain... so many are just dirty old men in private.
You will find God in your OWN heart... all by yourself. For free.
August 1, 2008 2:17 AM
Anonymous said...
yeah i agree but thats doesnt mean that all are fakes many true and good saints are there... wherz good therz bad to
in otherwords we should beware of those dirty missionaries who plans to spoil our great hindus saints name,because of these saints their crap work of convertion doesnt work
September 13, 2008 9:41 PM
HOBO said...
Very true. I agree.
We all are emotional by heart and we all are some way or other surrounded by some or other problem.
These fake people(I do not want to use the word sadhu for fake person) psychologically cheat us and Our fault is that we blindly listen to them without using our mind.
Believe in God - The Mantra
:)
Best-Wishes !!!
September 22, 2008 12:21 PM
dcosta_halo said...
Hi Friends,
Thanks for nice views.
The real reason i think for going to so called fake people is to avoid thinking and putting efforts in disciplining oneself for quicker gains and get cheated in processes & coming out as bitter not better person at end of transaction with so called fake persons not sadhus, correctly put by one of friend above.
Its not the fake people who are solely resposible for ourself being cheated but our own desire to get benefits instantly without work.
Personally like verse 1 of chapter 6 which describes a true sanyasi(sadhu) which is:
"anshrita karma phala karyam karm karoti yaha,
saha sanyasi cha yogi cha na niragni na cha akriyah"
2 qualities described of sadhu are:
1-engaged in action with an ideal
2-not worried about fruits of action
not one who avoids action , doesnot have fire(agni) or ideal or goal.
So lets be alert with our own wishes of avoiding self effort, thinking for quick gains,to prevent being cheated.
Manoj
manoj.kausal@gmail.com
December 12, 2008 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
i have studied shastra thoroughly and been very close to many saints and after many years i have come to believe that there really are no such thing as saints or god-people, unless you go very close you will never know and unless you know any "sant" as well as you know yourself we cannot call them sant. grihasthas are more godly any day
February 10, 2009 9:34 PM
Dennis said...
One criterion I use is this. How often is money asked for? One guru told me, "Spiritual Wisdom is never for sale."
http://www.aumnamahshivaya.org.in/new1/english/book.html
February 11, 2009 12:49 AM
Anonymous said...
i was very closely invovled with a very famous spiritual organization and like anything else politically indian it is all about power and corrution, this is kalyug guys stay awat from them
February 24, 2009 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...
yes many people have had such experience even from reputed organizations but mostly they are all money hungry people who use shasta for their own benefits and how far they have sunk they do not even know
February 24, 2009 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...
You're right and wrong. So many people seem lost and seek help. So many people dream to become their guide. It's human life.
As far as truth is concerned, it's not a problem. Who are we to say that something or someone bad is really bad. You see, even shit (like manure for eg) has its value and work to do.
Nobody has never been lost. Moksha cannot be attained, otherwise you may be able to loose it, so it will not be moksha, pure infinity without boundaries.
The fish can ponder and ask for advise. The truth is that the fish is the sea. And at the same time it has its own peculiar life to live.
false and true is a dichotomy, its more a problem for abrahamic religions, not asian ones.
All gurus are jerks, fake as long as you consider these being able to bring you to the moon. They can only show (live) the moon.
When you are in truth, you are the truth.
Now concerning this process to become conscious to be conscious. Yes, it exists, but it is only an experience, bound in time and space.
Now if you want to know how it looks like, imagine..
That you jump from an international flight ...without parachute. Or you touch the wires of a high tension pole. or you are on you way to the moon but you are tighten on the outside of the space shuttle.
Nobody wxants to die, nor disappear. Its not a human process. So don't worry about fake or true gurus. They are jokers. That's why saainthood is related to laughter. When you are awakened, there is no separation, no division, no problemo.
Ananda
March 9, 2009 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...
What is a guru ? A guru is not a man, belonging to a certain fold. A guru can be anything that instructs you. At the difference of abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam), Asian religions are not one size fit all stuff. It’s a private relation between you and God. Life speaks to you in many different ways. It’s up to you to listen and look.
A guru can be a dead leaf, or the sunlight on a rose bud. He can be your annoying neighbor, your irritating mother in-law, a dog, a dog drop, anything. It can be a simple word or a thing or a person that has a connection with, that talks to you, at a certain moment. That’s why you can read all religious books without perceiving anything in them. And surprisingly, read a cookbook and find a real answer for you. That’s the beauty of a creative life.
Man creates his own problems and then cries. There are no problems in life, only a swirl of energy, continuously unfolding, moving. And you cannot solve a problem. There is no solution for a problem. You have to get a new vision in which you drop the problem and adopt a new way that will be your solution.
Man wants to be certain, secure, helped. This denotes his fear and confusion. Man believes he is a poor human being, alone in the universe. Man is full of godliness and in total connection with what is, the manifestation. He is already realized, accepted, dipped in life. The work of a human guru is to dispel his ignorance even if this hurts the follower’s ego. He is there to help him avoid hard stones on the path. A guru is a killer, he has nothing to do with you, (drop that loving image Amma, Sai Baba and Cy, gentle guru stuff from your mind – please, same thing as fake or true guru thing). Nothing to do with money (but what’s wrong with money?) or human desires and vices (but what’s wrong with desires). A guru has his life to live. He goes to bed at night, scratch his ass in the morning, poo, take breakfast, burp, shout or scream, pass urine, etc. He is a normal guy. Why do we want to see him as an alien coming from planet Mars? He has no wings attached to his back and can’t convert rupees into dollars (sorry buddy, choose Euro instead, dollar is a dead donkey).
Ananda
March 10, 2009 1:57 AM
Rahul said...
Last two comments from Anonymous are thoughts of wise! Good and evil are two sides of the same coin(Brahman)."To get the real, you must know what is fake"!It is called dance of duality.
March 13, 2009 1:54 AM
Anonymous said...
Very enlightening thoughts-Ananda-u have become our guru for the minute we took to read your deep comments-will like to discuss more with you-i get the impression though that one spiritual path will not be the same if one does not meet a human guru...
March 23, 2009 10:53 PM
Dr. Aman Biswas said...
Which is fake which is true None of or buisness. You so ever is takling about God is a step in your life!!. NEVER THINK Topmost step near roof is only Important. keep on steping the fisrt step was equally important. If you have fear of reaching saints just thinking they may not be true Hey man!! How will you become a discoverer. Well God bless you all in your search towards truth. Your own mind is gateway to hell or heaven!!
April 6, 2009 7:57 PM
Arthur Sanchez said...
Dear Friends,
This is the test of genuine sincerity. Those who do not deeply desire God will get what they want. The fake in the name of the Real.
Those who truly desire God never fail to get Him.
April 11, 2009 11:29 PM
sujesh said...
So could any of you tell me what Amma and Sai Baba are teaching right or wrong? other words are they real sanyasins or fake?
April 13, 2009 5:13 PM
Satyakama said...
Dear Sujesh,
If you truly desire to know whether Amma or Sai Baba are real, then look deep into your own heart. Only there can you find God, the Truth.
It really doesn't matter what the objective world says. All that matters is what your divine heart says.
Sacrifice is the key to knowledge and knowing is seeing. What are you willing to sacrifice for this knowledge, Sujesh?
Do not follow the masses blindly because someone says that they are Gods. Find out the truth for yourself.
April 14, 2009 4:43 AM
SRK4U said...
Look with an unbiased mind, If you are convinced then you can trust them. If these people are for real you will understand or rather feel it. Think rationally and decide. Dont just believe if anybod says anything whether +ve or -ve.
Word "guru" means one who removes the darknes. Darkness abt anything - lyf, god or anything at all.
May 14, 2009 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes,it's true that there are fake swamis.But they are many great gurus too.Just because many are fake,one should not distrust all.
The "GURU" or the teacher is regarded highly in hindu religion,even equivalent to GOD.The underlying thought is that it's thru GURU that you know GOD.
Like it's been brought out by the writer of this article("abhilash"),a true GURU never tells us how to get better in material life.But,it's seen that those who follow spiritual practices and are rooted in the self,will be provided more that what they ask materially also.
The Bhagvad Gita and many books of Hinduism is not as simple as it is made out to be.T understand the essence of these books we really need a learned teacher(At least,I feel I am not intelligent enough to understand what these books say,they do create confusion at times,again I may be totally wrong in what I say)
One problem which many of us face is that we keep doubting wether the "GURU" prcaitcies what he preaches.I feel if some one teaches you to do good and if he himself does not follow it,we need not bother.We should do good and not have doubt in the teachings.If a Guru does soemthing wrong,he will have to answer for that.
I Just happened to bump into this blog,find it quite interesting and nice.Thanks
May 17, 2009 3:10 PM
Tess said...
Since Atman is within us all-when we read, study, contempate on what we have read-won't the Atman reveal the right path for us to understand Brahman at whatever level we might be in our present state?
I wanted to see past Maya and so I did for a time give a far away guru money for advice, but as the cost rose I realized this was not the right thing to do- in the old sense of the guru/student role. But I could be mistaken-because the Vedas say we must preform sacrifices and give gifts (among other things.) What is a sacrifice or gift if money isn't involved in this modern day and age?
I have come to understand a false guru as one who would lead us away from knowing there is God within ourselves, and as someone who does not treat his students as if they were already God. The finest example of a true guru was Sri Ramakrishna in my opinion.
May 27, 2009 6:28 AM
Anonymous said...
Many Hindus today believe that by accepting one (or more!) of the swamis who come to the scene like any advertised commercial service/product, they will be able to ensure, 1) a name in society as a good person irrespective of whether they have an unsavoury past record in this regard, 2) they will be able to ensure a front seat in heaven ( balcony if it is a cinema!) after their death through the Guru's efforts, just as we are able to get many things done in this world by bribing the right person for each thing, and 3) if they have much unaccounted money/wealth, the Guru's ashram will serve as a safe place to hide such wealth and ensure reasonable or even very high returns through stock-market operations regularly done by the ashrams (including the Kanchi mutt, which I know for a fact).
June 3, 2009 7:20 PM
sunil rathee said...
Have any one heard about Swami Dyananda , he was the only person who saved Hindu Dharma and its holyness by providing rear vedas to all indians. In 1850 when there were around 2500 panth in India and so many bad works were going on like sati pratha , bal vivah , no education to girls , jati pratha , chua-chut etc, people were converting to other religion because the dase of Hindu dharm i.e. Vedas were not followed anly some literatures of pandits like puranas were followed and people think the brahman as God . That time swami Dyanand remove all those panth and spread the light of vedas all around and saved Vedic Dharma. For Future he make a institute known as Arya Samaj which works a lot for Hindus. They removes alll the bad rituals from hindu dharma. The first school for girls and lower casts was founded by Swami dyanand only.Every sanyasi give comments on the top of How to get God only , No one care about Human Being. After Swami Dyanada death his followers gave a lot of contribution in country independence , His followers like Lala lajpatrai , Bhagat Singh , Pan Prasad Bismil , Chandersekhar Azad , all were Arya samaji's. This time Graet Yog Guru Swami Ramdev is also a follower of Arya samaj and get his all education from Gurukula's which are run by Arya samaj followers. Before Swami Dyanand no one ( a family person) was aware about Yoga. But He and his followers made it.
This is the biggest contribution of any Sanyasi ever.
June 12, 2009 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Ultimately it all comes back to within us.Fake or not one must be able to use ones judgement ..althugh some donation to upkeep the movement is O.K. Again unless one is on a journey to find -its useless to follow blindly
June 24, 2009 1:14 PM
Ram said...
This is a very good discussion with sensible comments. Modern technology helps us to uncover the bogus and the fakes. For example, night vision cameras have exposed seances with apparitions as being nothing but tricks with mirrors. Nobody does this trick any more since night vision cameras became commonly available. And a slow motion replay of a video camera exposed a so-called sadhu and maharishi who could change dirt in the palm of his hand into a lotus flower. It was nothing more than a sleight of hand that any competent professional magician can perform.
My question is this. Are the sadhus and sanyasis all 100% fakes and charlatans, or are there some genuine ones living today? I am certain that you will not find the real ones in the kumbh melas - these events are show pieces for the media and an industry designed to rip off the gullible and rich.
So where are the genuine ones? Do they exist? or are we genuinely surrounded by 100% charlatans?
If you can name the ones living today who you genuinely believe are the real articles, I will be very happy to look into and report back.
July 15, 2009 11:20 PM
Anonymous said...
hey every saint and guru is not like this.See the ancient gurus you have just heard some of your relative or some family member speaking all this and wrote.Also in hinduism is told about the ego that is devil and the self and soul nedds to be one to defeatit.The ego is not to be destroyed but it dessolves itself when we are one with the divine.Are the gurus fake.You know who is the guru of people who have no guru,its SRI KRISHNA.So you do one thing go and don't even read the GITA as it is told by the ETERNAL MASTER SRI KRISHNA JAGATGURU.It s said that KRISHNAM VANDE JAGAT GURU ok and you tell fake that guus talk about wealth and all that is matrialistic then see the todays guru.The best guru today PARAM PUJYA SRI SRI RAVISHANKAR JI See the holinesss in him.See how he uttered the GITA at the age of four the second verse by himself untaught.You see his things taught then you will understand this thing.You know however you reside in yourself but when in need only GURU'S GRACE helps you.If you are working on something very much its taking too much of your time but with your GURU'S GRACE you won't need to work so long or practice something so longs.You will do a little and GURU'S GRACE will help you throughout.Same in KARMA.KARMA can only be cleared with the help of KNOWLEDGE and this knowledge is not the G.K. you read everyday it's residing inside and that's nothing without GURU'S help.OK.Go and see SRI SRI RAVISHANKARJI'S talks and you will understand what a real GURU is and you will surely get your questions's answer.See how this GURU answers your questions in secons.And atleast continue your work rather than complaining about he GURU'S.You don't have a GURU doesn't mean we also do not have ok good bye jai gurudev.OK i again tell you the meaning of JAI GURUDEV.It means victory to the big mind as big minds thinks of better things and not temporary happiness and materialism and this is the bigger nature and we have to get rid of the smaller mind and nature by saying JAI GURUDEV.Also if you follow fun misery follows you and if you follow knowledge fun follows you.I hope this was a good entertaining lecture for you.Only this much for now JAI GURUDEV good bye
July 24, 2009 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...
I am amazed at the way some swamis charging fee (200-1000 dollars) for a meditation session.In the name of donation to their organisation,they charge enormous amounts from naive followers.
One doesn't need so many meditation techniques to realise bliss.Simple awreness of breathing if enuff.
July 24, 2009 6:17 AM
Ravi said...
True godmen are like pearls which are found at the bottom of the ocean, And only garbage floats on top for everyone to see.
August 4, 2009 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...
Who is to decide true or false? How many of us householders are leading good lives? Do we worship? Are we truthful? do we have control over our appetites? And we are ready to criticize our sadhus.
the greatest problem of hinduism is this stupid criticisim of our own people. And we run after monks and priests of other religions. Do you know how corrupt they are? Any idea?
fools!
September 10, 2009 9:42 PM
ranjithmails said...
I am not sure, if all so called saints and sanyasis today are fake .. though I suspect most are fake ..
Hinduism itself says that u need to have a Guru to make spiritual progress .. Right ?? Bhagavad Gita itself says that .. I forget the exact verse ..
I have personally felt that -- Fake or not, the effect most so called Gurus have on their devotees is very positive .. I am not sure if the so called famous godmen from South India who are living today(u know who I am talking about, I dont want to mention names here) are genuine or not .. But their devotees are certainly more on the spiritual path than the normal Hindu .. No doubt about it .. I have seen many many ppl who have become so pure at heart after being involved with such Godmen .. They shell out their own money to do charities and help other people( remember its not even just dontaing some money) .. they do bhajans every week .. and they have God on their lips all the time .. Many of them actually try to carry out atleast some of the good teachings of their so called Gurus and change themselves positively both in their thoughts and in their actions..
Irrespective of if the Guru is fake or not, most of their devotees strongle believe that their Guru, who is God himself, is always with them and no harm can happen to them when the Guru is with them .. And when some bad things do happen in their lives(like it will happen in everyones lives), they believe its due to their karma and move on ahead ..
Let me clarify I am not the devotee of any living Guru, but I have had the oppurtunity to interact with many of their devotees closely ..
Like the saying goes
Gurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah, Gurur Saakshaat Parabrahma, Tasmay Shree Guruvay Namaha ..
September 14, 2009 2:06 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same.
October 1, 2009 4:23 PM
neelkumar said...
Haii dera It's very Useful
October 6, 2009 8:30 AM
Anonymous said...
The article completely rules out a good calibre Guru, rather it preaches that one should seek the scriptures to realize. If that was possible we won't be here. I have read many books multiple times, they mean different things until I experienced somethings under a calibre Guru the scriptures is just a wisdom statement. To give an example, Lord Krishna says at the end of Vishnu Sahasranama ;
Yo mam nama sahasrena strotum ichheti pandavah! soham ekena slokena stuteva nasamshayah! Stueva nasamshayah om nama iti!
There are thousands names sloka in the sahasrnama, it is difficult to remember them, so many ask this question to him. His reply is very simple, subtle and unambiguous ;
Out of the slokas of these thousand names, if one can recite one sloka with no doubt, one can commune with him eternally ....
How is this possible ? It is only possible with constant practise of meditation (pick a sloka, mediate on the meaning of it) with devotion for the divine for some time, the mind which is fickle by nature will mend and reach what the heart is looking for. This can be attained only by an assistance of (I repeat) a calibre Guru, it is impossible to reach God without a Guru, even avatara purusha had a Guru and if one has read the scriptures correctly, here is one from Guru Shankaracharya ;
Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah! Guru sakshat ParaBrahmah tasmai Shree Gureva Namah!
When the priest in the temple asks gotra during sankalpa, how many of us know who is being referred ? It is one of the SaptaRishi's (seven priomordial saints) or the lineage from whom we have descended. Every human being have a gotra, the scripture go beyond and tell if one does not have gothra, one can adopt "kashyap" saptharishi. But for spiritual progress one needs a living calibre Guru.
Ofcourse there are many fake gurus in this world who are materially motivated, the onus to screen the Guru is on the sincere aspirant to find out if the guru will take from point a to b or is s/he after money or fame.
October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Hello. I do not know why I am putting the following personal comments in this section. I suppose part of developing trust means not knowing everything all the time.
Friends, Baba has said that if a devotee has dedicated his/her whole existence to Him, then prayer is no longer needed.
Personally, I know I have not fully done so. Do you know why? Because I fear. And why do I fear? Because I do not fully trust Him? And why don't I fully trust Him? Because I do not fully trust myself. This is my weakness.
So, even though I continuously affirm that my life is a prayer, I pray. I pray that the Lord makes me a more dependent devotee on Him without fear. I am willing to fully surrender, but I cannot without His grace. The spirit is willing, but the flesh, the mind and brain, are weak.
Is this not the same with all other genuine aspirants? Is this not a sign of a saint in the making?
October 31, 2009 11:30 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Here I am again. I hope you all enjoy my interpretation of the following question and answer quotes.
Q: "You are Bhagavan. So you should know when I shall get jnana. Tell me when I shall be a jnani?"
A: "If I am Bhagavan there is no one besides the Self - therefore no jnani or ajnani. If otherwise, I am as good as you are and know as much as yourself. Either way I cannot answer your question?"
Sri Ramana Maharshi
Did Ramana merely shirk the question? Many would say, yes. Why? Because they would think that as an omniscient soul he would know. However, the important word to understand here is the word "cannot". Cannot does not mean know not. Therefore, the important question to ask is: why couldn't Ramana answer the question? The question was fully answered, but not all in words. Let me finish his sentence and then let us see if he shirked the question. "Either way I cannot answer your question" [with absolute accuracy, because the future is not predetermined].
Ramana liked to play this game. He would often end a sentence and then allow a receptive spirit to finish it by following the Self. It sounds insane, doesn't it? The joy of this revelation is inexpressible, the Self.
Only a jnani can understand a jnani.
Arthur
November 2, 2009 8:55 AM
Sundaram said...
Actually, the omnipotent Guru always knows better when to impart knowledge to a deserving disciple. So it is wrong to ask Guru "When will I become Dnyaani". Instead one should focus on Spiritual Practice.
November 3, 2009 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...
can anyone help me give some media adress and contact number who can expose about fake swamis in hyderabad. I'm in urgent need of the same
November 9, 2009 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I know of one such fake saint : Dr. Dakshinamurthy Dixit from Kohir. Dixit..very popularly known as "Ayyagaru" is such a person who traps people into his vemonous loop by playing around their weakness, blackmails them emotionally and sentimentally and lures off their wealth. He destroyed many families and seized and grabbed many innocent people properties getting relinquished on his name himself. He even seized Sri Omkareswara Temple of Kohir. In the name of homas, pujas, this person lures people in the form of huge amounts of grains, gold, silver, and many precious ornaments giving the name as "Guru Dakshina". God Shiva and Goddess Parvathi themselves should punish this Dixit to such an extent that he should die a street dog death stoned by people themselves.Atleast this way, other innocent people lives and families will be saved. There can be no doubt that he had even grabbed and occupied the Kohir's Omkareswar temple. I'm a sufferer of this Dixit myself. He smashed my family life in the name of homa and pujas.
Please help me in exposing this dixit and give an end to his drama once for all.
November 9, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...
i completely agree. for me it is AC bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada, a true spiritual soul, only here to serve krishna and spread his name. all those bogus asses, like sai baba (not the one who lived long ago (shedi)) but this other dude who is alive and in a wheelchair or something... that fag... but thank you
November 15, 2009 5:18 AM
Arthur said...
Dear Friends,
Hello, again. Here is some food for thought. How irrational is it to call a murderer a Christian?
The following article heading is an example of how dumb, deaf and blind the world really is: "Two Egyptian Christians get death sentence for murder."
Proclaiming Christianity does make one a Christian nor does it define a Christian. This statement holds good for all religions.
You think that there are many fake swamis and gurus in this world, but consider the "billions" of fake disciples professing all sorts of religions. Worldliness attempting to proclaim spirituality is the Great Lie and also the Great Test. This is how God separates the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, the lions from the sheep.
Consider the gatherings of Sai Baba, for example. Do you honestly think that they are mostly all genuine disciples? Superficial kindness and respect is not a genuine consideration.
Friends, genuine disciples are nearly as rare as genuine gurus. Seek out both. Unfortunately the reality is is that people want blessings and not Truth. How fortunate then for the ignorant to be in the presence of a real guru. However, a genuine disciple will give up even good fortune for Truth alone.
November 15, 2009 10:11 PM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.
What To Give And What To Take.
If one takes, one will be taken from. If one gives, one will be given to. This is the Law. This is Karma.
Therefore, one should always strive to give love and take sins. This is how one blesses oneself and cleanses the world. This is what the saints do. This is God's work.
November 25, 2009 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...
‘Taarak Braham’ - the ‘GURU’ (Spiritual Master)
Today, the concept of ‘Taarak Braham’, ‘Taarak Braham Kee Mahasambhuti’ & and in taantrik language ‘Maha Kaul’ has gone oblivious. ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only the Spiritual Master – the ‘Adhyaatmik Guru’. “Gurur Brahama, Gurur Vishnu, Gurur Devo Maheshwarah Gurureva Parama Brahama Tasmai Shree Guruvey Namah” signifies that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the only ‘Guru’ and it is Salute for Him. Non other than the ‘Taarak Braham’ is ‘Guru’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ had appeared in capacity as ‘Taarak Braham’ [the manifestation of Supreme Consciousness in Human Form – the connecting point between Qualified (Sagun) Braham and the Non-Qualified (Nirgun) Braham - the relative world and the pure consciousness] on this earth 7500 years back. Thereafter another ‘Taarak Braham’ who inundated this Earth with His Grace was ‘Lord Krishna’ 3,500 years back in India.
November 25, 2009 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)
The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’.
So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’.
(Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life).
Taarak Braham Kee Jai |
Thanks
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
‘THE GURU’
The word ‘Gu’ means darkness and ‘ru’ to dispel So collectively the words ‘Gu+ru’ denote - that great personality who dispels the darkness. India is a country of spirituality. For the first time, the seed of spirituality sprouted somewhere in ‘Central Asia’- the abode of Aryans. All know, the ‘RIGVEDA’- the first knowledge on spirituality and relative world, ‘was propounded by the Aryans’. The science of spirituality is root cause for the origination of ‘RIGVEDA’. Presently, in Europe there is place by the name ‘RIGA’. So it will not be out of place to mention here that the name ‘RIGA’ has been derived from the Sanskrit word ‘RIK’ thereafter ‘RIG’ – the ‘VEDA’ - that has ‘Rik’ & ‘RICHA’ in plural. So ‘RIGVEDA’ the holy book of oldest spiritual knowledge in India (which was brought to India by the Aryans). The present natives (our overseas brothers) of Europe must understand that they are the offsprings of Caucasians (Aryans)- the ancestors of the Indo-Aryans. From the spirituality point of view, all are the progeny of same cosmic father. Science and anthropology recognize us as ‘Homosapiens’. Be it -Aryans, Mongolians, Austrics, Negroids or Dravidians’ all are the ‘Homosapiens’.
The point of our discussion is ‘Aadhyatmik Guru’ the ‘Master of Spirituality’. The word: ‘Taarak Braham’ is a Sanskrit word. In English language, perhaps there is no equivalent terminology for the words ‘Tarak Braham’ , ‘Mahasambhuti’ and ‘Maha Kaul’, etc. . ‘Kaul’ are those who have raised their ‘Kundalini Shakti’ (the Serpentine Force that is lying in a latent state at the lowest ending point of spinal cord) for the spiritual union with ‘Param Shiva’ (seated between the secret point of eyebrows) by dint of their own rigorous efforts / practice.
‘Maha Kaul’ were those who had not only raised their own ‘Kundalini Shakti’ but were rather still are authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners (Aam Adhyatmik Saadhak) by a mere spiritual touch or on oral command. (Mahakaul can raise the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the animals also) The word ‘Maha Kaul’ is a esoteric (tantrik) language word. So, it is not known by the common people. In Kashmir, Kashmiri Brahmins / Pandits place the title ‘Kaul’ or ‘Kaw’ after their names. So it must be understood that formerly the ancestors of those Pandits / Brahmins were the follower of ‘Kaulachar’ (They were Kaulachari Pandits). ‘Kaulachar’ - the cult of spirituality that has the practice of raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’. ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the personalities on this Earth who were authority over raising the ‘Kundalini Shakti’ of the average spiritual aspirants / practitioners by a mere spiritual touch or on a oral command.
(Contd…….1/1……. below:-)
November 26, 2009 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...
(Contd…....1/1 from above)
The meaning of the word ‘Mahasambhuti’ is - that ‘biological body /form’ through which the ‘Taarak Braham’ expresses Himself. It is used in the sense as – “Mahasambhuti of Taarak Braham” denotes that the ‘biological body / form’ from which the ‘Taarak Braham’ (the supreme Consciousness) functions / acts. So ‘Lord Sadashiva’ and ‘Lord Krishna’ were the ‘Mahasambhuti’ of ‘Taarak Braham’ in different Eras on this Earth. Their biological bodies were called the ‘Mahasambhuti’ and their soul – ‘Taarak Braham’ which collectively denotes the ‘Supreme Consciousness and the biological body’. It must be understood that ‘Taarak Braham’ is the same Supreme Consciousness - not two or three. The pure Supreme Consciousness when appeared for the FIRST TIME on this Earth 7,500 years back was named as ‘Sadashiva’ and thereafter 3,500 years back, He was named as ‘Shri Krishna’ when He appeared on this Earth for the SECOND TIME. This name was given to Him (Lord Krishna) by one of His worldly (loakik) uncles and sage ‘Ramta Ram Garga Ji’.
So the ‘Taarak Braham’ [who is a complete personality and capable of exhausting the unconsumed reactive momenta (Abhukta Sanskara)] is the only ‘SPIRITUAL MASTER / GURU’.
(Note:- Reactive Momenta – the accumulated reactions of our actions in potential form – partly accompanied from the past lives and partly the reactions of actions done in the present life).
Taarak Braham Kee Jai |
November 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Arthur said...
Dear Abhilash,
Hello. I was wondering where I may add some miscellaneous comments. For example,
What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs".
I have realized that the hardest things for a person to give up are not his/her properties or even his/her loved ones, but rather, the hardest things for a person to give up are his/her cherished beliefs. A person's identity, existence, depends on it.
Overcoming cherished beliefs are his greatest obstacles, because they are his most valuable possessions. A man would rather lose his life with his egoic existence intact, then to give up his attachment to cherished beliefs for fear of losing his identity. He diligently works to be a good somebody in this world instead of a divine nobody.
For example, look how the different religions fight to protect their own identities as if their very existence depended on it. It is cherished beliefs that are at the core of their fighting. Is this not so?
This is why it so hard to find an ego that is willing to sacrifice everything, especially its own beliefs on all levels of thought, for Truth alone. It is this desire that leads to the highest life and philosophy, the fairest of all God's flowers.
November 28, 2009 8:36 AM
abhilash said...
@ Arthur...you can publish it as article itself...send us your articles and we will publish it say it has been contributed by you....You can also contact me via hindublog@gmail.com
November 28, 2009 8:55 AM
Arthur said...
Hello, friends.
I want to thank you, Abhilash, for responding. I will contact you via the gmail address.
However, my purpose on this link is to comment on real and fake swamis and gurus. May the following words illuminate minds.
"Do not judge according to appearances". A deceiver will see deception in another. A lover will see love in another. The self-centered will see self-centeredness in another. Etc., etc. We all see this world and each other according to "our own" mental and spiritual dispositions.
For example, I "know" that Sai Baba is God. How do I know? Because I know the truth. I have experienced it. To "believe" in something is merely the first step towards knowing the truth of the belief. One must next seek to experience "subjectively" the belief. Do not build your houses on the grounds of belief, because like sand, the house is not based on a stable foundation.
Those who believe in Sai Baba, for instance, are fortunate. But this fortune will be short lived if the believers do not experience the truth. They must desire to know for a fact. The greatest blessing is in knowing and not in merely believing. Knowledge is bliss, is love, in the highest. A believer can be deceived, but not a knower. It is the experience of truth which makes us know that is the basis of real faith. Yes or no?
The world's "objective" approach to God is the result of its own ignorance. If this be the truth and nothing but the truth, then who am I?
November 30, 2009 12:34 AM
Hindu said...
Well its true there are fakes around but there are also many genuine ones around as well.So we have to be careful that we don’t just give the impression that all of them are fake..Many times because of the anti Hindu groups involved and their influence in the media they like portraying Hindu holymen as fakes.You will notice the Indian media will go overboard ‘exposing’ of alleged scandals but soon as it turns out to not be true you wont hear a whimper because its better to keep the false rumours alive so people who don’t know the facts keep on believing them.. A good example was the alleged expose of Sathya Sai baba when he was falsely accused of child abuse by some American guy where even a BBC documentary was made over the issue..Few years later this same guy withdrew his case in the US when it turned out that most of his accusations didn’t add up and he was about to be exposed but did the media report that ? Not at all. So we have to be very careful with just giving general statements about Hindu gurus being fake..And at the end of the day who are keeping Hinduism alive to the masses ? The many Hindu swamis and gurus out here working day and night.Of course in-between there are some scammers but that’s in other parts of life as well and you just have to be cautious overall..
December 21, 2009 10:31 PM
itispals said...
A nice discussion. Good to see the various points of view. My belief is that a coin has two sides. So, is Nature.
It is we who have classified things as "Good" & "Bad". What is good for me, can appear as bad for others and what is "bad" for others may appear as "good" for me?
Isn't this the universal truth.
Two Stand Out Sentences:
"Shri Krishna never fought for Arjuna. Arjuna had to do all the fighting in Kurukshetra. The ultimate truth that we have to do our work and no God will come to do it is not still acceptable to many."
"If we are falling into the trap of fake Sanyasis and Godmen, it is our fault."
May be falling in the trap is also a way to realize the Truth :)
Arthur's Posts were very much insightful. "What are a man's most valuable possessions? Are they properties, such as material wealth? Or are they loved ones, such as family and friends? Neither. A man's most valuable possessions are his thoughts, his "beliefs"."
Finally, Abilash you are doing a great Job. Keep it up.
Itispals
January 4, 2010 2:18 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
Talking about Sanyasis -- we might see more fake than real ones. Reason? if they were real, they would have realized the meaninglessness of this materialistic life and wouldn't give a damn for publicity and they might live their life in "their own world" trying to find the truth about this life and teaching their findings to their Shishyas (students)! They don't need publicity or political power for that!
My mom used to be a big believer of a "human god". He could bring gold chains etc from thin air! I used to wonder why he differentiates between Gold and other material? (I must admit that these human Gods do a lot of charity work compared to our politicians). Does God really care if you put Gold ornaments on him/her/it? Do you think God uses all that "bribe" you put in collection boxes in various Hindu temples? Who uses all that money? -- Hindus don't have a culture of charity work like (other) religions.
So even in modern Hinduism it is all about greed -- for money, publicity and power!
January 13, 2010 11:42 AM
SATVIC said...
A true living Guru, who works hard and travel all over the palces is SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. By simple yoga/meditation techniques and knowledge sessions he has helped millions around the world to understand the meaning of life and conduct life in more joyful manner. Art of Living foundation started by Sri Sri has been working in various humanitarian projects like, Education for Underprivilaged, Health to all, Organic farming, Women self healp groups, Alcohal/Drug addiction and many.
Sri Sri is a true guru living as per the principles of Sanadhana Dharma
January 14, 2010 6:00 PM
TropicalMonkey said...
This is in response to SATVIC's comments about "Sri sri Ravi Shankar".
I certainly agree that Mr Ravi Shankar is doing a great job of trying to help people to lead a happy materialistic life. Not by his classes of breathing techniques (improvised Pranayama), but by the advises he gives about "Art of Living". Luckily he has not (yet) started claiming himself as God. I personally respect him as an individual until he start claiming that he is an incarnation of God. This is his business (for monitory benefits). Nothing wrong in doing that in this materialistic world, if you ask me.
I have attended one week class of "Art of Living". It was not free. Nothing can be free in this (materialistic) world. What really moved me was - most of his "devotees" do not understand "Art of Living" even after attending the class. All of them go there just for one reason -- "networking". In addition to this "Art of Networking", all they want to do is some "breathing exercise". Thus Art of Living became synonymous to Breathing Exercise (like SATVIC mentioned in the above post)!!
(.. oh well I guess I misunderstood the meaning of "Art of Living", otherwise I would have paid Rs 150,000 to "purchase" a teacher's job in one of "Hindu religion's" college fifteen years ago!! I was too adamant that even though I am also leading a materialistic life, I did not want to go down to their level).
Even this materialistic world would have been a much better place if Ravi Shankar could make people understand the real meaning of "Art of Living" (without stressing too much on Pranayama).
January 15, 2010 12
Each Day of a Week Dedicated to a Particular Hindu God
In Hinduism, each day of a week is dedicated to a particular god in the Hindu pantheon. Apart from the special Vratas and Upvaas, many Hindus also fast on a particular day in a week. Each day in a week has a specialty and there are numerous folklores associated with the fasting observed on the days of a week.
Sunday
Sunday is dedicated to Lord Surya (Sun God). Those who undertake fast (upvaas) on the day only take a single meal. Oil and salt is avoided. Red is the color of the day and red flowers are offered to Surya. (more details)
Monday
Monday is dedicated to Lord Shiva. It is said that Lord Shiva is easily pleased. Therefore many people observe Upvaas on Monday. Those devotees observing fast only eat food once. People visit Lord Shiva shrines and conduct pujas, especially, Ardhanarishwara puja. The mantra ‘Om Namah Shivaya’ is chanted continuously. Siva devotees also read Shiva Purana. Unmarried women observe the Vrat to get good husbands. Others observe it for a happy and prosperous family life. (more details)
Tuesday
Tuesday is dedicated to Lord Ganesha, Durga, Goddess Kali and Lord Hanuman. Most devotees visit Devi and Hanuman shrines. Those people who fast avoid taking food containing salt at night. (more details)
Wednesday
Wednesday is dedicated to planet Mercury and Lord Vithal, an incarnation of Krishna. Green color leaves, especially Tulsi leaves, are used in Pujas. The day is highly auspicious for starting new ventures and it is believed that those who observe the Vrat are bound to get blessed with fortunes. People also give alms on the day. (more details)
Thursday
Thursday is dedicated to Lord Vishnu and his incarnations. Pujas are conducted using milk, ghee etc. Food is only eaten once and that too containing milk products. People read Srimad Bhagavad Purana on the day. (more details)
Friday
Friday is dedicated to Mother Goddess – Mahalakshmi, Santhosi Ma, Annapuraneshwari and Durga. Sweets are distributed on the day. Those devotees observing the Vrat make it a point to eat at night. (more details)
Saturday
Saturday is dedicated to alleviating the bad influence of Lord Shani. The Vrat on this day is mainly observed by those people who believe in Hindu astrology. Black is the color of the day and people visit Shani shrine or Navagraha shrines. Food is only consumed once on the day. (more details)
It must be noted here that the deity worshipped on a particular day might vary from region to region and community to community. The result of all upvaas or fast depends on the person. It is good, if all the members in the family can undertake a Vrata together.
Miracles do happen by observing a particular Vrata and the greatest miracle is Brahman realization. All rituals and observances are path towards understanding the Supreme Soul and this will automatically alleviate all sufferings.
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Sunday
Sunday is dedicated to Lord Surya (Sun God). Those who undertake fast (upvaas) on the day only take a single meal. Oil and salt is avoided. Red is the color of the day and red flowers are offered to Surya. (more details)
Monday
Monday is dedicated to Lord Shiva. It is said that Lord Shiva is easily pleased. Therefore many people observe Upvaas on Monday. Those devotees observing fast only eat food once. People visit Lord Shiva shrines and conduct pujas, especially, Ardhanarishwara puja. The mantra ‘Om Namah Shivaya’ is chanted continuously. Siva devotees also read Shiva Purana. Unmarried women observe the Vrat to get good husbands. Others observe it for a happy and prosperous family life. (more details)
Tuesday
Tuesday is dedicated to Lord Ganesha, Durga, Goddess Kali and Lord Hanuman. Most devotees visit Devi and Hanuman shrines. Those people who fast avoid taking food containing salt at night. (more details)
Wednesday
Wednesday is dedicated to planet Mercury and Lord Vithal, an incarnation of Krishna. Green color leaves, especially Tulsi leaves, are used in Pujas. The day is highly auspicious for starting new ventures and it is believed that those who observe the Vrat are bound to get blessed with fortunes. People also give alms on the day. (more details)
Thursday
Thursday is dedicated to Lord Vishnu and his incarnations. Pujas are conducted using milk, ghee etc. Food is only eaten once and that too containing milk products. People read Srimad Bhagavad Purana on the day. (more details)
Friday
Friday is dedicated to Mother Goddess – Mahalakshmi, Santhosi Ma, Annapuraneshwari and Durga. Sweets are distributed on the day. Those devotees observing the Vrat make it a point to eat at night. (more details)
Saturday
Saturday is dedicated to alleviating the bad influence of Lord Shani. The Vrat on this day is mainly observed by those people who believe in Hindu astrology. Black is the color of the day and people visit Shani shrine or Navagraha shrines. Food is only consumed once on the day. (more details)
It must be noted here that the deity worshipped on a particular day might vary from region to region and community to community. The result of all upvaas or fast depends on the person. It is good, if all the members in the family can undertake a Vrata together.
Miracles do happen by observing a particular Vrata and the greatest miracle is Brahman realization. All rituals and observances are path towards understanding the Supreme Soul and this will automatically alleviate all sufferings.
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Hindu Temples and Sites in UNESCO World Heritage List
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Prambanan Temple Compounds in Indonesia – The 10th century Prambanan Temple is dedicated to Lord Shiva. There are also temples dedicated to Lord Brahma and Vishnu and to the vehicles of the Trimurtis. The highlight of the temple is the Illustrations from Ramayana.
Angkor Wat Temple in Cambodia – The largest Hindu temple in the world was built during the Khmer Empire, from the 9th to the 15th century. Angkor Wat Temple, the Bayon Temple and the countless sculptural decorations are part of the Angkor Archaeological Park.
Vat Phou and Associated Ancient Settlements within the Champasak Cultural Landscape in Laos – Envisioned by the rulers of Khmer Empire, the Champasak cultural landscape, including the Vat Phou Temple complex, was shaped to express the Hindu vision of the relationship between nature and humanity, using an axis from mountain top to river bank to lay out a geometric pattern of temples, shrines and waterworks extending over some 10 km.
Katmandu Valley in Nepal – It consist of the Durbar Squares of Hanuman Dhoka (Kathmandu), Patan and Bhaktapur, the Buddhist Stupas of Swayambhu and Bauddhanath, and the Hindu temples of Pashupati and Changu Narayan.
Ancient City of Polonnaruwa in Sri Lanka – Temples built by Cholas during the 11th and 12th century is dotted with Hindu temples and deities. The architecture of the Hindu temples had a greater influence on the Buddhist temples in the region.
Ellora Caves in India – The 34 monasteries and temples at Ellora dating from A.D. 600 to 1000 are dedicated to Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism.
Group of Monuments at Mahabalipuram in India – The seventh and eighth century Pallava monuments are noted for the temples in the form of chariots, cave sanctuaries, the famous ‘Descent of the Ganges’ and the thousands of sculptures to the glory of Shiva.
Sun Temple at Konark in India – This majestic representation of Surya's chariot was built in the 13th century.
Monuments in Hampi in India – These inspiring monuments of the great Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagara were built between 14th and 16th centuries.
Khajuraho Temples in India – Built in the 9th and 10th century by the Chandella Dynasty the temples are noted for its sculptures that are among the greatest masterpieces of temple sculptures in ancient India.
Elephanta Caves in India – Rock Art linked to Lord Shiva on an island in the Sea of Oman near Mumbai.
Great Living Chola Temples in Tamil Nadu, India - The 11th century Brihadisvara temple of Thanjavur, the 11th century Temple of Gangaikondacholisvaram and the 12th century Airavatesvara temple at Darasuram. A testimony of Chola architecture, sculpture, painting, and bronze casting.
Temples at Pattadakal – The 7th and 8th century Chalukya temples includes the famous Virupaksha Temple and an impressive array of eight temples.
Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park in Gujarat, India - The Kalikamata Temple on top of the Pavagadh Hill, chalcolithic sites and a hill fortress of an early Hindu capital. It is noted for ancient Hindu architecture, temples and special water retaining installations.
Prambanan Temple Compounds in Indonesia – The 10th century Prambanan Temple is dedicated to Lord Shiva. There are also temples dedicated to Lord Brahma and Vishnu and to the vehicles of the Trimurtis. The highlight of the temple is the Illustrations from Ramayana.
Angkor Wat Temple in Cambodia – The largest Hindu temple in the world was built during the Khmer Empire, from the 9th to the 15th century. Angkor Wat Temple, the Bayon Temple and the countless sculptural decorations are part of the Angkor Archaeological Park.
Vat Phou and Associated Ancient Settlements within the Champasak Cultural Landscape in Laos – Envisioned by the rulers of Khmer Empire, the Champasak cultural landscape, including the Vat Phou Temple complex, was shaped to express the Hindu vision of the relationship between nature and humanity, using an axis from mountain top to river bank to lay out a geometric pattern of temples, shrines and waterworks extending over some 10 km.
Katmandu Valley in Nepal – It consist of the Durbar Squares of Hanuman Dhoka (Kathmandu), Patan and Bhaktapur, the Buddhist Stupas of Swayambhu and Bauddhanath, and the Hindu temples of Pashupati and Changu Narayan.
Ancient City of Polonnaruwa in Sri Lanka – Temples built by Cholas during the 11th and 12th century is dotted with Hindu temples and deities. The architecture of the Hindu temples had a greater influence on the Buddhist temples in the region.
Ellora Caves in India – The 34 monasteries and temples at Ellora dating from A.D. 600 to 1000 are dedicated to Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism.
Group of Monuments at Mahabalipuram in India – The seventh and eighth century Pallava monuments are noted for the temples in the form of chariots, cave sanctuaries, the famous ‘Descent of the Ganges’ and the thousands of sculptures to the glory of Shiva.
Sun Temple at Konark in India – This majestic representation of Surya's chariot was built in the 13th century.
Monuments in Hampi in India – These inspiring monuments of the great Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagara were built between 14th and 16th centuries.
Khajuraho Temples in India – Built in the 9th and 10th century by the Chandella Dynasty the temples are noted for its sculptures that are among the greatest masterpieces of temple sculptures in ancient India.
Elephanta Caves in India – Rock Art linked to Lord Shiva on an island in the Sea of Oman near Mumbai.
Great Living Chola Temples in Tamil Nadu, India - The 11th century Brihadisvara temple of Thanjavur, the 11th century Temple of Gangaikondacholisvaram and the 12th century Airavatesvara temple at Darasuram. A testimony of Chola architecture, sculpture, painting, and bronze casting.
Temples at Pattadakal – The 7th and 8th century Chalukya temples includes the famous Virupaksha Temple and an impressive array of eight temples.
Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park in Gujarat, India - The Kalikamata Temple on top of the Pavagadh Hill, chalcolithic sites and a hill fortress of an early Hindu capital. It is noted for ancient Hindu architecture, temples and special water retaining installations.
http://www.hindu-blog.com/2009/11/sankashti-chaturti-2010-dates-ganesh.html
http://www.hindu-blog.com/2009/11/sankashti-chaturti-2010-dates-ganesh.html
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2262&Itemid=199
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2262&Itemid=199
http://malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29820:perception-and-royal-reality-in-malaysia-&catid=21:special-reports&Itemid
http://malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29820:perception-and-royal-reality-in-malaysia-&catid=21:special-reports&Itemid=100135
Monday, January 25, 2010
MUST READ---- http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/15462-singapore-couple-claim-malaysian-vip-bodyguards-bashed-them
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/15462-singapore-couple-claim-malaysian-vip-bodyguards-bashed-them
MUST READ!
FACTS AND FACTS!
LET ALL READ THE FACTS
MUST READ!
FACTS AND FACTS!
LET ALL READ THE FACTS
HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE, JOANNE....WE ALL MISS YOU, I WILL MISS THE NESCAFE TARIK..............
Dear friends,
My last day of work with my current company is 29 Jan 2010. Pls contact me through my private email address in the future or facebook.
Wish you a Happy New Year 2010!
Warmest regards
Joanne
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Hai, Joanne,
All the best, my friend.
Life is hard to predict....take care
Morale of the story is :we don't know what will happen tomorrow...........
But it is a good news as you are "Lao ban Niang"......
Pls look forward and enjoy good life.
10 years in this co-operative, go and come is too common.....already no more feeling, Tan's leaving...and many more.. and now you....make me feel more sadden...........but it is life!
...Still remember.... the morning nescafe tarik...now...it is no more..............
I miss the nescafe tarik, you, the topic, the chit-chat day by day...........and flashed back...........Tan......already in Singapore--she is now working plus leraning hard!
This is life............may be 3 years when we all meet together, we will say:".........hai, are you alright?"
Thank you to you all-- make my life bright, more meaningful.
The day has come......cheerio.....
We meet someone, get something, when the day comes, we loss something, we miss someone......
Time and tide waits for no man.....good luck to you and I believe our souls will meet in one day..........Allah bless all.
Om guru liansheng xi ti hom......om moli zhi yu soha.
VL
My last day of work with my current company is 29 Jan 2010. Pls contact me through my private email address in the future or facebook.
Wish you a Happy New Year 2010!
Warmest regards
Joanne
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hai, Joanne,
All the best, my friend.
Life is hard to predict....take care
Morale of the story is :we don't know what will happen tomorrow...........
But it is a good news as you are "Lao ban Niang"......
Pls look forward and enjoy good life.
10 years in this co-operative, go and come is too common.....already no more feeling, Tan's leaving...and many more.. and now you....make me feel more sadden...........but it is life!
...Still remember.... the morning nescafe tarik...now...it is no more..............
I miss the nescafe tarik, you, the topic, the chit-chat day by day...........and flashed back...........Tan......already in Singapore--she is now working plus leraning hard!
This is life............may be 3 years when we all meet together, we will say:".........hai, are you alright?"
Thank you to you all-- make my life bright, more meaningful.
The day has come......cheerio.....
We meet someone, get something, when the day comes, we loss something, we miss someone......
Time and tide waits for no man.....good luck to you and I believe our souls will meet in one day..........Allah bless all.
Om guru liansheng xi ti hom......om moli zhi yu soha.
VL
MARKET IS GOING TO FALL.......FALL......FALL...THE FALLEN KNIFE IS KILLING.
COMPOSITE : 1288.17 -8.62
2ND-BOARD : 0.0 0.0
VOLUME : 617865.0 lots
GAINERS : 164
LOSERS : 540
UNCHANGED : 209
Most Active ('000)
TALAM 578158
IRCB 144501
CNI 116217
PPHB 106511
KEURO 97249
Top Gainers Chg LD Vol ('000)
TOMYPAK 0.420 2.700 25202
DAIBOCI 0.180 3.040 11760
PRDUREN 0.130 1.670 4276
TECNIC 0.110 1.970 135
ADVPKG 0.110 1.010 8385
Top Losers Chg LD Vol ('000)
MISC-O1 -0.250 8.250 633
SUPERMX -0.230 5.390 24430
TOPGLOV -0.220 11.440 2623
KOSSAN -0.220 6.300 1028
SKBSHUT -0.210 0.580 100
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而2010年和 2007年相像的地方在于市场沉寂一阵子后,游资过剩,在信心回流之下,每一调整恰是大家大举进场的时机。你看上市公司善用机会配售股票或附加股集资,而反应热烈辄可见一斑。
不过,万一市场的结果好像2008年就大事不妙。2008年1月1521点的历史新高只是昙花一现,过后市场就掉入 15个月熊市,3年来累积的涨潮毁于一旦。我们当然不希望历史重演,不过2008年的惨况历历在目,一时之间也不容易抹掉,而我们也担心公牛跑累了,要喘息一番,所以投资者当步步为营,小心为妙。
犹记得几年前有个投资博士,大力鼓吹买股不卖,认为一生难见的大牛市已经降临。如今博士似乎饱食远飏,不见踪影,留下小股东还在痴痴等待“一生难见的大牛市” 诞生。
IT IS A SELL MARKET................
当年配合全国大选就要在3月8日举行,让2008年1月1521点的历史新高只是昙花一现................当时GAMUDA老板是最精明的一个,在全国大选前将许多股票卖出......
能够FEEL到一些东西......把手上的股票先丢了................让那些"乐观"的投资者去接!
当然,国阵会大败的"事实",在当时很少有人敢想象,不过,当时每个人,见面就是让国阵倒台.....这种思想发挥优势......
从来没有,在大马BOLEHLAND/NOMANLAND,出现过......总算.....说明了每一个人手中的一票都太重要了!
未来,你我他更要发挥一票优势......改变确实是可以实现的!绝对可以做到!!!
股票还是要看好,量力而为............
管理好财务,就可以发挥优势!!手中一票更可以发挥最大的优势!!!!
你要有信心去面对现实,发挥优势!!!!
I AM READING YOUR MIND............NTV7在星期六晚上8.30的影片(影集)可以看,因为是谈到有关READING YOUR MIND!!!!林吉祥一定要看!!!!!所有政治秘书,政治工作者都要看!!!
请常念:OM MOLI ZHI YU SOHA(能保护,保佑政治工作者,家人,孩子们....最好自己一定要念,功力更大,鼓励妻子孩子们也念...这个咒一定要念....此外,再加念其他佛号!)
每天一定要念.....一千到一万次............要有恒心....天天念!刘天球要念,丁清,汉华更要多念!!!!
这才是精明的股票投资者!!!
2ND-BOARD : 0.0 0.0
VOLUME : 617865.0 lots
GAINERS : 164
LOSERS : 540
UNCHANGED : 209
Most Active ('000)
TALAM 578158
IRCB 144501
CNI 116217
PPHB 106511
KEURO 97249
Top Gainers Chg LD Vol ('000)
TOMYPAK 0.420 2.700 25202
DAIBOCI 0.180 3.040 11760
PRDUREN 0.130 1.670 4276
TECNIC 0.110 1.970 135
ADVPKG 0.110 1.010 8385
Top Losers Chg LD Vol ('000)
MISC-O1 -0.250 8.250 633
SUPERMX -0.230 5.390 24430
TOPGLOV -0.220 11.440 2623
KOSSAN -0.220 6.300 1028
SKBSHUT -0.210 0.580 100
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
而2010年和 2007年相像的地方在于市场沉寂一阵子后,游资过剩,在信心回流之下,每一调整恰是大家大举进场的时机。你看上市公司善用机会配售股票或附加股集资,而反应热烈辄可见一斑。
不过,万一市场的结果好像2008年就大事不妙。2008年1月1521点的历史新高只是昙花一现,过后市场就掉入 15个月熊市,3年来累积的涨潮毁于一旦。我们当然不希望历史重演,不过2008年的惨况历历在目,一时之间也不容易抹掉,而我们也担心公牛跑累了,要喘息一番,所以投资者当步步为营,小心为妙。
犹记得几年前有个投资博士,大力鼓吹买股不卖,认为一生难见的大牛市已经降临。如今博士似乎饱食远飏,不见踪影,留下小股东还在痴痴等待“一生难见的大牛市” 诞生。
IT IS A SELL MARKET................
当年配合全国大选就要在3月8日举行,让2008年1月1521点的历史新高只是昙花一现................当时GAMUDA老板是最精明的一个,在全国大选前将许多股票卖出......
能够FEEL到一些东西......把手上的股票先丢了................让那些"乐观"的投资者去接!
当然,国阵会大败的"事实",在当时很少有人敢想象,不过,当时每个人,见面就是让国阵倒台.....这种思想发挥优势......
从来没有,在大马BOLEHLAND/NOMANLAND,出现过......总算.....说明了每一个人手中的一票都太重要了!
未来,你我他更要发挥一票优势......改变确实是可以实现的!绝对可以做到!!!
股票还是要看好,量力而为............
管理好财务,就可以发挥优势!!手中一票更可以发挥最大的优势!!!!
你要有信心去面对现实,发挥优势!!!!
I AM READING YOUR MIND............NTV7在星期六晚上8.30的影片(影集)可以看,因为是谈到有关READING YOUR MIND!!!!林吉祥一定要看!!!!!所有政治秘书,政治工作者都要看!!!
请常念:OM MOLI ZHI YU SOHA(能保护,保佑政治工作者,家人,孩子们....最好自己一定要念,功力更大,鼓励妻子孩子们也念...这个咒一定要念....此外,再加念其他佛号!)
每天一定要念.....一千到一万次............要有恒心....天天念!刘天球要念,丁清,汉华更要多念!!!!
这才是精明的股票投资者!!!
Sunday, January 24, 2010
CAR ACCIDENT

文/澳洲蓮花九鋂
「踫」的一聲巨響,一輛灰色的房車突然從右邊衝出,撞上了外子瑋浩駕著的三菱牌小車。呆了二秒鐘,他方才反應過來,忙走出車子查看。車頭右側已被撞得稀爛,慘不忍睹。兩輛車子像兩個無賴似的扭打在一起,難分難解,車流被堵。
事逢巧合,緊跟外子的車後正是一輛警車,警察及時下車指揮交通。經過一番簡單的盤問後,警察告訴瑋浩﹕「這不是你的錯,是對方的錯。」雙方抄下彼此的證件號碼後,那個楞頭年輕肇事者駕著車「拜拜」了,可瑋浩的車已被撞得氣息奄奄,寸步難移,只能由拖車公司拖回家來。
回家時,瑋浩看我正在禪定,硬著頭皮輕聲叫我出定。睜開眼,我衝出口的第一句話就是﹕「車子被撞了。」外子囁嚅道﹕「這不是我的錯。」我爬起身跟他到門外一看,簡直不敢相信自己的眼睛。那輛也為我們服務了五年多的寶藍色小車已損壞得面目全非,可憐巴巴地停在路邊,像個衣衫襤褸的叫化子。
仔細查看車子後,我倆嚇得出了一身冷汗。車頭右側整個地扭成一團,卻留下駕駛座車門完好無損(澳洲實行右座駕駛),連油漆都沒擦掉半點。只要零點一秒的時差,那麼開車的瑋浩就會像這車頭一樣地扭成一團了。意識到這點後,我驚恐地連聲問他﹕「你怎麼樣?受傷了嗎?有不舒服感覺嗎?要上醫院檢查嗎?」「沒有不舒服,我一切好好的。」外子坦然地回答我。「當時我只聽到一聲巨響,但人在?面沒感到一絲震動。感覺上就像看到別人的車子被撞,心?只是驚了一下。因為沒有震動,心就不慌,四肢也很靈活,打開車門就出來了。」 聽他這麼說我簡直難以相信。記得曾有一次我們的車子被別的車子從後輕輕撞了一下,我的肩背就痛了兩天。
「連警察也覺得驚訝,」外子接著說,「他們連問我兩次受傷了嗎,按照他們的經驗,車被撞成這樣,人即使不受重傷,頸背也會震傷。可我確實什麼感覺都沒有。」外子仔細回憶當時的情景,十分肯定地說道。
這又是一個不可思議的奇蹟。自從一九九九年八月二十一日,全家皈依真佛宗後,家中奇事連連。皈依後,當時我外子手頭有些文件要處理,一時抽不出時間修法,九月二十四日晚上,我在禪定中突然看見準提佛母的形象緊急出現,警告我「瑋浩有難。」我大驚,「何難?」答﹕「交通事故。」「怎麼化解?」「每天早晚各一遍大悲咒,五遍高王經。」我急忙把這消息告訴瑋浩。他嚴格執行,每天二遍大悲咒,十遍高王經。到一月八日車禍發生,他整整讀滿一千遍高王經,一百多遍大悲咒。車禍是定業,無法避免。但佛菩薩用祂的大神通力把事故化小到最低限度。在事故發生的一剎那,一定是護法神擋了過去,以致瑋浩連震動的驚嚇都沒受到,而且警車緊跟其後,見證事故原因,避免好多麻煩。當晚我們一家三口跪在密壇前,深深感謝佛菩薩的保佑,感謝師佛傳我們如此殊勝的大法。
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http://blog.udn.com/article/trackback.jsp?uid=kinshing&aid=1651778
死亡與活著 the true meanings of death and living...learn to live......
死亡與活著
有一個人很害怕死亡。
他心裡想著:「死亡是在前面呢? 還是在後面呢?」
他想到:「人總是在往前跑的時候死亡,例如飛機失事、車禍喪生。所有的動物也都是在往前逃命的時候,被捕殺的。從來沒有動物是在後退時喪生,所以,死亡是從後面追趕的。」
他得到一個重要的結論:「要避免被死亡追上的唯一方法,就是走得更快速、更匆忙。」
於是,他每天總是行色匆忙,不論是吃飯、工作或走路,都比從前的自己快了三倍。
有一天,他匆匆忙忙的趕路時,突然被一個白鬍子的老人叫住。
老人問他說:「你如此匆忙,是在追趕什麼呢?」
他說:「我不是在追趕,我是在逃開呀!」
「逃開什麼呢?」老人問。
「逃開死亡!」
老人說:「你怎麼知道死亡是在後面呢?」
他說:「因為所有的動物都是在往前逃命被死亡追上的。」
老人說:「你錯了!死亡不是在起點時追趕,而是在終點時等候的。不論你跑快或跑慢,都會抵達終點。」
「你怎麼知道?」
「因為我就是死神呀!」老人說。
那個人大驚失色:「你今天出現,莫非我的死期到了?」
死神說:「喔!你不用害怕,你的死期還沒有到,只是你一直跑得太快。
我的兄弟「活著」一直向我抱怨趕不上你,如果你不和他會合,和死亡又有什麼兩樣呢?他特別請我通知你慢一些呀!」
當他把心靜下來的時候,老人說:「你回頭看看,我的兄弟來了。」
他一回頭,老人不見了,卻看見了從來沒有看見的、美麗的街景。
「我要如何才能和「活著」會合呢?」
死神說:「首先,你要站著不動,把心靜下來,然後你要環顧四周,用心體會、用愛感覺、用所有的力量來品味,活著就會趕上你了。」
要懂得:
幸福並不取決於財富、權力和容貌,而是取決於你和周圍人的相處。
在平凡的日子裡,珍惜週遭的人事物,敢於快樂,做自己!
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read once more:
當他把心靜下來的時候,老人說:「你回頭看看,我的兄弟來了。」
他一回頭,老人不見了,卻看見了從來沒有看見的、美麗的街景。
「我要如何才能和「活著」會合呢?」
死神說:「首先,你要站著不動,把心靜下來,然後你要環顧四周,用心體會、用愛感覺、用所有的力量來品味,活著就會趕上你了。」
要懂得:
幸福並不取決於財富、權力和容貌,而是取決於你和周圍人的相處。
在平凡的日子裡,珍惜週遭的人事物,敢於快樂,做自己!
有一個人很害怕死亡。
他心裡想著:「死亡是在前面呢? 還是在後面呢?」
他想到:「人總是在往前跑的時候死亡,例如飛機失事、車禍喪生。所有的動物也都是在往前逃命的時候,被捕殺的。從來沒有動物是在後退時喪生,所以,死亡是從後面追趕的。」
他得到一個重要的結論:「要避免被死亡追上的唯一方法,就是走得更快速、更匆忙。」
於是,他每天總是行色匆忙,不論是吃飯、工作或走路,都比從前的自己快了三倍。
有一天,他匆匆忙忙的趕路時,突然被一個白鬍子的老人叫住。
老人問他說:「你如此匆忙,是在追趕什麼呢?」
他說:「我不是在追趕,我是在逃開呀!」
「逃開什麼呢?」老人問。
「逃開死亡!」
老人說:「你怎麼知道死亡是在後面呢?」
他說:「因為所有的動物都是在往前逃命被死亡追上的。」
老人說:「你錯了!死亡不是在起點時追趕,而是在終點時等候的。不論你跑快或跑慢,都會抵達終點。」
「你怎麼知道?」
「因為我就是死神呀!」老人說。
那個人大驚失色:「你今天出現,莫非我的死期到了?」
死神說:「喔!你不用害怕,你的死期還沒有到,只是你一直跑得太快。
我的兄弟「活著」一直向我抱怨趕不上你,如果你不和他會合,和死亡又有什麼兩樣呢?他特別請我通知你慢一些呀!」
當他把心靜下來的時候,老人說:「你回頭看看,我的兄弟來了。」
他一回頭,老人不見了,卻看見了從來沒有看見的、美麗的街景。
「我要如何才能和「活著」會合呢?」
死神說:「首先,你要站著不動,把心靜下來,然後你要環顧四周,用心體會、用愛感覺、用所有的力量來品味,活著就會趕上你了。」
要懂得:
幸福並不取決於財富、權力和容貌,而是取決於你和周圍人的相處。
在平凡的日子裡,珍惜週遭的人事物,敢於快樂,做自己!
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當他把心靜下來的時候,老人說:「你回頭看看,我的兄弟來了。」
他一回頭,老人不見了,卻看見了從來沒有看見的、美麗的街景。
「我要如何才能和「活著」會合呢?」
死神說:「首先,你要站著不動,把心靜下來,然後你要環顧四周,用心體會、用愛感覺、用所有的力量來品味,活著就會趕上你了。」
要懂得:
幸福並不取決於財富、權力和容貌,而是取決於你和周圍人的相處。
在平凡的日子裡,珍惜週遭的人事物,敢於快樂,做自己!
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